I love the unimog, that's my idea of an off roader. A few of my friends and I chipped together and bought an 8x8 M.A.N. tractor unit, which used to tow ICBM's around Germany. We bought it for raids like the Paris-Dakar, (who don't accept 8x8's, 4x4 or 6x4 only). Maybe this will change. When I left to live in France I had to sell my share, as far as I know she's still competiting. Her last "race" was in Saudi a year or so ago. I can't remeber all the details about her, other than she weighted in over 13T when we finished with the mods but could pull 44T as if is wasn't there, awesome doesn't come close. If I ever get my finances back in to some sort of order I'd still love to do the Paris - Dakar. <sigh>.