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#269663 - 05/05/14 01:13 PM The bacteria are now in the ascendance...
nursemike Offline
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Antibiotic resistance is worldwide and increasing. Meanwhile, in big pharma, researchers in novel antibiotics are being laid off as those programs close, or reassigned to work on drugs that actually make money-those that treat hair loss, erectile dysfunction and depression: WHO report on antimicrobial resistance

No sir, we cannot cure your infection, but we can provide medication that will return you to your adolescence: hirsute, potent and unconcerned.
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#269665 - 05/05/14 04:01 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: nursemike]
hikermor Offline
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Don't forget the relentless hawking concerning "low T," whether or not it is significant....
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#269667 - 05/05/14 04:15 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: nursemike]
cedfire Offline
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I like what one doctor's office had for a sign by the front desk... basically it stated in no uncertain terms that the doc did *not* meet w/drug reps.

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#269671 - 05/05/14 05:56 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: nursemike]
AKSAR Offline
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Registered: 08/31/11
Posts: 1233
Loc: Alaska
Originally Posted By: nursemike
Antibiotic resistance is worldwide and increasing. .....WHO report on antimicrobial resistance
One reason is that people get a prescription for antibiotics for any sore throat or whatever, even though many times these ailments are viral, and antibiotics have no effect at all. People demand antibiotics and too many physicians comply. Meanwhile, some really nasty bugs are evolving.

EDIT: Deleted Doonesbury link to avoid offending anyone. smile


Edited by AKSAR (05/05/14 08:20 PM)
Edit Reason: Deleted Donnesbury link
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#269673 - 05/05/14 06:03 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: nursemike]
Arney Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
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Loc: California
Like Peak Oil, a true post-antibiotic era is a milestone that I fear many of us will experience within our lifetimes. So many medical and even dental procedures will no longer be "routine." Gangrene, septicemia, and even TB may become commonly used words again.

A part of me feels dread about that eventuality, but then again, maybe this is simply helping to restore some balance to things and is not the apocalyptic situation that it sounds like, at least not for us in the industrialized world. Historically, the bulk of the reduction in deaths from infectious disease were due to wider availability of food, clean water, and sanitation. Antibiotics and vaccines, at least in the West, primarily just mopped up what little was left.

So even without any effective antibiotics left, humanity would reset to a new equilibrium with bacteria. Yes, many more people than we are accustomed to now will likely die from infections and we will again suffer through more diseases, but people will carry on and humanity overall will not face extinction like in some Hollywood pandemic movie.

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#269676 - 05/05/14 07:56 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: AKSAR]
Denis Offline
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Originally Posted By: AKSAR
Doonesbury on Drug resistant TB.

Really, that was more an attempted slight against creationists than a commentary on antibacterial resistant TB (as responded to here, for example). But I guess getting into that falls well outside the scope (and rules) of these forums smile.
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#269677 - 05/05/14 08:21 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: Denis]
AKSAR Offline
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Deleted link. smile
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#269678 - 05/05/14 09:12 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: AKSAR]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
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Loc: SOCAL
Okay, I emailed the deleted link... to true... not that believe one way or t'other smile

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#269679 - 05/05/14 10:06 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: nursemike]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3238
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Realistically, bacteria are always in the ascendant; we only engineered a lull.

And then we blew it.

I assessing responsibility, we should not overlook short-sighted head-banging quick-buck idiocy such as antibacterial dish soap and feeding low-level antibiotics to farm animals.

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#269680 - 05/05/14 10:11 PM Re: The bacteria are now in the ascendance... [Re: Russ]
haertig Offline
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Registered: 03/13/05
Posts: 2322
Loc: Colorado
Drug-resistant bacteria are a well-known issue. I wonder why people continue to buy anti-bacterial hand soap? It doesn't really do anything useful for the purchaser, it's a marketing gimmick, but it helps contribute to resistant strains of bacteria. Such soap might be useful for a surgeon getting ready to stick their hands inside your guts, but for the everyday person, useless. And potentially harmful to the herd in the long term.

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