#269295 - 04/21/14 03:05 AM
Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
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Carpal Tunnel
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When "bugging out" or "getting home" Most people think of either driving or walking -- both good but what about other ideas; a bicycle, electric scooter, public transit, canoes etc.?
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#269296 - 04/21/14 03:11 AM
Re: Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 11/09/06
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I personally, keep a small pair of bolt cutters in my E&E Bag. A master key can be a wonderful thing to have on oneself.
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#269302 - 04/21/14 04:10 AM
Re: Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
[Re: wildman800]
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Registered: 06/18/06
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Wildman800: your bolt cutter comment raises an interesting issue. My EDC/GHB is a kit for a city pedestrian, 11lb.s., all up. Limited tools due to security searches, but I keep a LM Blast, most of the time. In my car, I have a much larger 72hr. pack and vehicle based tools, ax, shovel, Ti pry bar (21") and a 24" bolt cutter. That's a master key, but heavy as hell. I also keep a Channelock 369, 9.5" linesman pliers, with added silicone tape for cushioning & insulation. That small master key will cut fence wire and the like. I can add it to my bag in a walk-out situation. But it weighs more than a pound. Where did you draw the line in weight vs. limited utility in your E&E kit? Do you propose to walk-out with your bolt cutter?
Edited by acropolis5 (04/21/14 05:46 AM)
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#269306 - 04/21/14 12:10 PM
Re: Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Geezer in Chief
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I include a bicycle in my evacuation plans primarily because I have done a fair amount of bike touring and I have good equipment readily at hand. Traveling by bike, I can slip through traffic jams, take routes not available to larger vehicles, and even lug gear over obstacles.
My bicycle is a Surly LHT, currently with 32mm touring tires (37mm are recommended - much more versatile) with front and rear racks, and low gearing(although not low enough - the next time in the shop I will go even lower, if possible). The load on the bike is basically light weight back packing equipment, stuffed into front and rear panniers. Included is a lightweight backpack which would allow me to abandon the bike and continue on foot, if necessary.
This works fine for one person, but I have a wife and daughter, non-riders both, so the bike won't work in all situations.
I can easily travel 75-80 miles a day, fully loaded, and can exceed 100 miles if necessary.
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#269311 - 04/21/14 01:48 PM
Re: Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
[Re: TeacherRO]
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If you are more limited on weight and size for your tools, here is an option for serious cutting: Stanley Carbide Grit Rod Saw This will cut chains and other difficult metal objects. Just tie a loop of cord into each end as a handle. Usual disclaimer, no affiliation.
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#269312 - 04/21/14 02:21 PM
Re: Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
[Re: gonewiththewind]
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Here we are talking about bikes for bugging out, and you guys bring up bolt cutters and hacksaws. this definitely makes bike owners like me very uneasy! ![smile smile](/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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#269313 - 04/21/14 02:32 PM
Re: Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
[Re: acropolis5]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 11/09/06
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Loc: La-USA
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I plan on walking out with my bolt cutters. I debated about 6 months whether it was worth the weight or not. I finally decided that because of the distances involved, that it is worth the weight. It is about a 12" pair. The tool that lost the internal debate was a fencing tool which has many uses but it doesn't do anything as well as the actual tool could except for the staple puller. I don't see a big need for it's staple pulling or hammer capability. The wire cutter is only good for cutting wires up to a barb wire size.
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#269316 - 04/21/14 03:05 PM
Re: Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
[Re: hikermor]
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Here we are talking about bikes for bugging out, and you guys bring up bolt cutters and hacksaws. this definitely makes bike owners like me very uneasy! ![smile smile](/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) Be afraid, young Hikermor, be very afraid!
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#269320 - 04/21/14 04:02 PM
Re: Bikes, scooters, etc - alt. forms of transpiration
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Carpal Tunnel
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When "bugging out" or "getting home" Most people think of either driving or walking -- both good but what about other ideas; a bicycle, electric scooter, public transit, canoes etc.? When I worked downtown and depended on commuter rail to get there, I had myself a think about hoofing it home 40 miles. I stashed a good pair of broken-in boots and some other gear in my office, but I didn't have a place to store a bike. Assuming that the commuter rail was down and it didn't make sense to stay somewhere downtown, my preferred options were as follows: - Hop in a taxi and go
- Rent a car and go
- Buy a bicycle and go
- Hoof it
Towards those ends, I always had credit cards and plenty of cash on hand -- enough to buy a decent hybrid bike, which was more than enough for a 40-mile cab fare. I also knew where the car rental places and bike shops were, and where cabs could be successfully hunted.
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