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#267459 - 02/18/14 11:48 AM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: Mark_R]
Herman30 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mark_R
I've found you only need about 9 lumens on a moonless night to navigate a trail.


I once tested my Zebralight H501 with 0.3 lumen moon mode in a dark forrest. That small amount of light was quite enough for walking and not stumbling around. Of course no running and walking carefully and I only saw a couple of meters ahead but still doable.


Edited by Herman30 (02/18/14 11:49 AM)

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#267465 - 02/18/14 03:55 PM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: Russ]
bws48 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 831
Loc: Anne Arundel County, Maryland
Originally Posted By: Russ
Fully nighted adapted eyes can see remarkably well with moonlight.


Yeah, those of our ancestors who had better night vision tended to survive and those who didn't, didn't.

I once read an article by some anthropologist (sorry, reference long since lost) who theorized that the average intelligence of "primitive" man was higher than the average intelligence of "modern" man. His reason: nature is brutal and the stupid don't survive.

Stories like this seem like they support his theory. . .
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#267466 - 02/18/14 05:10 PM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: bws48]
adam2 Offline
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Registered: 05/23/08
Posts: 483
Loc: Somerset UK
A good modern flashlight has a lot to commend it, and a spare is sensible just in case.

But it is worth remembering that until only a generation or two ago, that people walked around after dark with only a wind resistant candle lantern, or an oil hurricane lamp, and managed just fine.

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#267471 - 02/18/14 08:08 PM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: Phaedrus]
Mark_R Offline
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Registered: 05/29/10
Posts: 863
Loc: Southern California
Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
Yeah, classic rookie mistakes all around. But that does remind me that I've been running the same battery in my EDC light for quite awhile. It's an Energizer Advance Lithium and not frequently used but it's probably better to change it out early and waste a little battery than have it die when I really need it.


My hiking light back in the day was a PT Attitude with a 70 hour runtime. I changed out batteries on a annual basis, even though they were still servicable.

If your EDC light is like mine (Fenix E01), and doesn't have a dimming grace period after the regulation drops out (with Li primaries), it might be a good idea to change it out periodically. Otherwise, you might be better served by just keeping a spare battery handy.
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#267472 - 02/18/14 08:56 PM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: adam2]
Mark_R Offline
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Registered: 05/29/10
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Invalid post ,disregard.


Edited by Mark_R (02/18/14 09:16 PM)
Edit Reason: Bleepin posting from cell phone
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#267476 - 02/18/14 11:05 PM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: Phaedrus]
celler Offline
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Registered: 12/25/03
Posts: 410
Loc: Jupiter, FL
Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
Yeah, classic rookie mistakes all around. But that does remind me that I've been running the same battery in my EDC light for quite awhile. It's an Energizer Advance Lithium and not frequently used but it's probably better to change it out early and waste a little battery than have it die when I really need it.


Excellent battery choice. 10 year shelf life and usually three times the runtime of alkalines. But they are pricey. Rather than just throwing them out when they have been there a "while", why not invest in a good battery checker like the ZTS and just check them periodically. Even if you confirm plenty of life left, carrying a spare as suggested above is a great idea and there are some great containers out there. Regardless of the life left in the battery in the light, an accidental activation left unnoticed for a couple of days will kill any battery.

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#267485 - 02/19/14 05:44 AM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: hikermor]
Phaedrus Offline
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Registered: 04/28/10
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Loc: Big Sky Country
That's a good idea. I should get a good tester.
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#267523 - 02/19/14 10:03 PM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: Phaedrus]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3840
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
That's a good idea. I should get a good tester.


I recommend this one: http://www.batteryjunction.com/zts-mini-mbt-r3.html . Most battery testers just check the voltage. Only a pulse-load tester will give you an accurate reading.

No affiliation with Battery Junction or ZTS except as a customer.

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#267527 - 02/19/14 10:55 PM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: hikermor]
Deathwind Offline
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Registered: 02/01/14
Posts: 310
This is proof that Darwin was right.

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#267537 - 02/20/14 04:57 AM Re: Fortunately rather funny [Re: hikermor]
ireckon Offline
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Registered: 04/01/10
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Loc: Northern California
I'd buy a cheap multimeter before buying a dedicated battery tester. A multimeter is more versatile, and you can get the testing done just as good. Here's a Youtube video to show you how to do this correctly with a load:

http://youtu.be/HcikzMG7mMU
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