#266941 - 01/29/14 07:19 PM
Re: Carmageddon in Atlanta
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1918
Loc: Washington, DC
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-corn shovel -extra washer fluid -phone charger
Great list -- what's a "corn shovel?" You remind me that on a drive to New Jersey earlier this month there was so much salt on the roads that the spray where it was damp was coating my windshield to the point of near-blindness. Took so much windshield wiper fluid to be able to see that I nearly ran out. I was in a three-car convoy. We each bought a gallon of wiper fluid after we got to our destination. Two of the cars, including mine, took virtually the entire gallon to re-fill. I won't be carrying wiper fluid but will definitely try to be better about making sure it is topped off before a drive out of my home area. .
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#266942 - 01/29/14 07:28 PM
Re: Carmageddon in Atlanta
[Re: Dagny]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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A corn shovel (a.k.a. corn scoop shovel) is a shovel with a wide scoop and high walls along that scoop. Makes moving snow much easier, especially if you're thinking of shoveling yourself out of a ditch instead of a driveway. Mine is kind of like this: http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/troy-bilt-aluminum-d-handle-snow-shovel-0596904p.html#.UulRqT1dXj4Topping off your wiper fluid before you leave is smart! I carry a bottle in case I forget, or in the event that it's a particularly messy drive. A messy windshield is a terrible driving hazard. Snow will work for a one-off cleaning, but won't get me home.
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#266945 - 01/29/14 09:09 PM
Re: Carmageddon in Atlanta
[Re: Dagny]
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1185
Loc: Channeled Scablands
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My favorites Shovel (materials transfer shovel in aluminum, ie corn shovel) (make it collapsible http://blog.owareusa.com/2012/12/30/make-a-tough-avalanche-shovel-from-a-hardware-store-version/) Tire Chains (better than 4 wheel drive) Complete set of waterproof and insulated clothes, shoes, mitts Spare windshield squirt Nylon jerk strap WITHOUT metal hooks for pulling car out of ditch Jumper cables Headlamps Wool blanket(s) If possible, I prefer to get back on the road and to a safe warm place rather than have to shelter in a spot exposed to traffic and cold. If one car goes off the road at a spot, more will likely follow.
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#266948 - 01/29/14 10:11 PM
Re: Carmageddon in Atlanta
[Re: Roarmeister]
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Geezer
Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
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Yeah, I need to add tire chains to my truck's permanent kit. I've got lots of stuff to keep me warm and fed on the road -- even have a couple stoves to cook and make coffee. But snow chains have been off the list of things I need for a long long while. I saw them the other day and know where they are; tomorrow a set will be in my truck.
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#266949 - 01/29/14 10:12 PM
Re: Carmageddon in Atlanta
[Re: Roarmeister]
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Old Hand
Registered: 08/18/07
Posts: 831
Loc: Anne Arundel County, Maryland
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if you aren't equipped for winter at all, why are you on the road? All people had to do was check the weather forecast/highway hotline to make the determination of whether to travel or not. If you don't have winter travelling experience, don't know how to handle your vehicle in snow/ice, don't have snow tires or at the very least have better quality all-seasons with enough tread then why make the decision to drive? What is so important that you can't defer your trip? I agree---general rule is, "if you don't know what you are doing, don't do it." But this seems to be superseded by "you don't know what you don't know", so drivers who have never experienced snow/ice etc. have no idea what it means, or what questions to ask, or what to do. So they default to doing the "usual." You might as well give them information in Klingon (which might be more successful)
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#266950 - 01/29/14 10:49 PM
Re: Carmageddon in Atlanta
[Re: Dagny]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1918
Loc: Washington, DC
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I'm the only person I know in DC who carries tire chains (a habit ingrained from learning to drive a '69 Mustang on Oregon's Mt. Hood).
Chains are terrific, 4x4 and high ground clearance and experience in snow driving are wonderful. But if despite all that you are in a mass of stalled vehicles and there are guard rails on both sides, you are just as stuck as everyone else.
The Carmageddon list is about staying comfortable in a gridlock or breakdown situation you may not have any control over.
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#266951 - 01/29/14 11:27 PM
Re: Carmageddon in Atlanta
[Re: LesSnyder]
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Geezer in Chief
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
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does anyone have a link to, or actually tested the amount of interior temperature change a small kerosene lantern (1/2" wick, around 900 BTU/hr) can actually effect in conditions like those currently encountered?...I understand there are a lot of variables eg. interior volume, insulation,... just wondering on the temp change you can expect under actual conditions... normal safety warning I would be very careful about using any appliance with a live flame in any enclosed space - carbon monoxide. We will probably get a media story about deaths from people who fired up their barbeque grill or other makeshift device in order to keep warm - this unfortunately is a very predictable occurrence. This is one reason I stash a flameless heater in my kit, although those evidently are no entirely hazard free, either. I have used backpacking stoves (Svea or similar) briefly and gotten away with it. They will raise the temperature noticeably, but unless your space is well insulated, the heat goes away quickly. It is much safer to just bundle up and snuggle with a warm, receptive partner than risk CO poisoning - voice of experience here. "There is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes."
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