was -4 (F) when i got in the truck to drive to town this morning. BPJ, be careful with the boiling water thing with the kiddos, several kiddos in my area got second degree burns from trying this with the last cold spell. Should probably try to get out in this but I just can't seem to take the cold like I used to. You were right with your comment from another thread, getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative