#265321 - 11/25/13 05:58 PM
qualities of duct tapes...rated
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Carpal Tunnel
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My best guesses here - duct/duck/ gaff tape; form least quality to best
1. dollar store duct
2. common silver duct tape; Target, Lowes, etc.
3. Gorilla branded tape
4. Gaff / gaffers tape (used by stage hands)
5. 100 mph tape
Your opinion?
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#265329 - 11/25/13 06:41 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
[Re: TeacherRO]
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A couple of questions.....Are there available any objective tests, like those done by Consumers Reprots, for instance, of the qualities of any of the various brands? How well does duct tape keep? The reason I am concerned is that i have a roll onmy hiking pole that is at least a decade old...I am not sure that at this point it will perform very well. Is any old duct tape better than no duct tape at all? Is "100 mph" tape even a valid category, or just a military slang term?
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#265332 - 11/25/13 07:02 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
[Re: TeacherRO]
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1. dollar store duct
2. common silver duct tape; Target, Lowes, etc.
3. Gorilla branded tape
4. Gaff / gaffers tape (used by stage hands)
5. 100 mph tape
I'm not sure I've ever seen "real" 100 MPH tape, but I've read a few times that Gorilla tape is better. According to my Googling it's either Nashua's duct tape in green, or it's automotive body tape. Gaffer tape is great for clean removal, but is not designed to adhere as well or be as strong as the others, so I wouldn't have it in this list at all. Somewhere between what you describe as common silver duct tape and Gorilla tape are some higher-end duct tapes made by 3M, Nashua, and a few other manufacturers. They are noticeably better than cheaper tapes in my experience. So my list would look more like this: 1. dollar store duct tape 2. hardware store ("regular") duct tape 3. more expensive duct tapes (Nashua, 3M, 100 MPH tape) 4. Gorilla tape I've done some things with Gorilla tape that were just crazy, and it's what I stock for emergencies. It also survives well in temperature extremes.
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#265333 - 11/25/13 07:22 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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Carpal Tunnel
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Gorilla tape is probably about the best I've ever used. Duck tape is really good, and most of the silver stuff is pretty decent.
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#265334 - 11/25/13 07:32 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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For me, gorilla tape is not that good at wound closure for example. Too thick (that also makes its storage in good amounts harder), a lot less flexible, less stretchy, and to me it seems not as adhesive to various surfaces compared to regular brands.
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#265339 - 11/25/13 09:13 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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Carpal Tunnel
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Yeah, it depends on what you're using it for. Gorilla tape is awesome for repairs.
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#265341 - 11/25/13 09:27 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Like what for example? I have tried it to cover some abrasion points on my GHB wheeled tray one day, it fell off the next day. By the way, just noticed their new product: http://www.gorillatough.com/index.php?page=clear-tape should give it one more try.
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#265345 - 11/25/13 09:59 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Carpal Tunnel
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I've used it to fix knife sheaths to keep them together and to attach cordage to them. I've used it to temporarily reattach headliner in my truck. It has worked for me to patch holes in tarps and even to fix a blown out shoe (obviously not a permanent repair!).
It's odd to hear of it not sticking. Gorilla is probably the best sticking brand I've used. Did you make sure to clean what you were sticking it to?
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#265352 - 11/25/13 10:50 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Sure I did, even with alcohol to melt the glue more. However, the nature of the leather abrasion, I have there, might prevent reliable sticking of Gorilla tape. Contrary, with the regular thin tape I could force it into cracks, notches, and seams there, but I need black patches, never saw regular duct tape in black.
Gorilla is great when you need (can) to wrap something - that's true.
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#265355 - 11/25/13 11:51 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
[Re: TeacherRO]
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100 mph tape, aka 90 mph tape, aka Army green tape. Works well in a myriad of circumstances. Mended clothing, made ersatz knee pads so I didn't have to mend clothing, fixed rucks, many other uses. And yes, it can be used to patch rotors on helicopters - as told to me by a very senior MW5 who had done so.
If I had my druthers, I'd use Gorilla. Hasn't failed me yet, but I don't own leather luggage.
I do own some silver duct tape. It's like the Force, it has a dark side, a light side and it holds the universe together.
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#265356 - 11/26/13 12:59 AM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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My best guesses here - duct/duck/ gaff tape; form least quality to best
1. dollar store duct
2. common silver duct tape; Target, Lowes, etc.
3. Gorilla branded tape
4. Gaff / gaffers tape (used by stage hands)
5. 100 mph tape
Your opinion? There are many, many grades of duct tape that are silver, from the cheap stuff to some very good and very expensive versions from 3M, Nashua and others. Some of the specialty types are designed for greater adhesion or more or less resistance to tearing, etc. There's one for whatever ails you. :-) Gaffer Tape has the advantage of easy removal, but isn't all that great for adhesion and just as with standard duct tape, there's better and worse tapes all labeled as Gaffer Tape. So-called 100 MPH tape doesn't exist, per se. It was a slang term that was grabbed hold of by some marketing types, and you know how that goes. Now they make it in colors to match race car paint jobs. <sigh> It has generally been good quality duct tape, sometimes mil-spec grade, but surely not always. Back when I wrenched on race cars (Trans-Am and Can-Am), we just used more or less standard duct tape and it worked just fine up to about 150 MPH. Having said all that, one thing missing that I would put in similar range of Gorilla Tape, a bit less adhesion, but clean removal, not as bulky/thick, is so-called Nuclear Duct tape. Love the stuff and it is standard for my client SHTF kits. NOT Cheap! https://www.google.com/search?q=+Nuclear+Duct+tape Bottom line is that you don't often need the really good stuff, but when you do, it's handy to have a roll available.
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#265358 - 11/26/13 01:05 AM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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Inquiring minds want to know. With civilization's relentless advance, is there such an animal as 200 mph duct tape? Want some....
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#265371 - 11/26/13 04:00 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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#265382 - 11/27/13 04:21 AM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Important Note:
Gaffer tape isn't generally waterproof. I have a lot of professional experience with gaffer's tape. If you're in a climate controlled photo studio or sound studio, it's great... if you buy the high quality stuff. It's easy to tear, doesn't leave a residue etc. I would never count on it outside or in a damp, sunny, wet environment though. Most gaffer tape loses it's stick when wet.
There are some gaffer's tapes that I've seen listed as waterproof. These I believe are the exception and not the rule, however. I've never used these.
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#265383 - 11/27/13 06:39 AM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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"Standard" Gorilla Glue is a polyurethane-based glue. It needs moisture (water) to activate. The super glue stuff is probably not any better than regular cyanos.
As for 100 mph tape (speed tape), my experience has been it is similar to true duct tape (HVAC duct sealing ) - aluminum with a cyanoacrylate adhesive. There is also stainless steel tape - expensive.
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#265387 - 11/27/13 05:27 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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I remember using a green tape called Ordnance Tape.
Does it fit in to one of the categories discussed?
Blake
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#265388 - 11/27/13 08:42 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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EB green tape was made by Bostich iirc. I grew up near Groton/New London where they made subs. The EB tape was a common item in most tool boxes. With all the cutbacks I doubt they make it anymore. As to the Ordnance tape, wasn't it a brighter green then the OD stuff? I recall using it now and then when we couldn't get the OD.
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#265675 - 12/13/13 02:19 AM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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Carpal Tunnel
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Went with Gorilla tape, as it will be re-rolled into smaller 'pocket' rolls.
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#266082 - 12/26/13 05:50 AM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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I can vouch for Gorilla tape being absolutely amazing. The plastic bumper on my car had been badly cracked for a couple years from whacking a deer, and it finally broke loose and hung down at the end. These darned bumpers are expensive, it turns out! So I figured until I find a used one in the same color, I'll try this Gorilla tape I've heard good things about.
I taped the bumper back together, and it held together just fine. For over two years and thirty thousand miles, in fact, including two Northern winters! It not only held together perfectly, but never dried out or got crispy or frayed. It was still hanging in there just fine when we finally parted with the car.
The best part was, the car was black, and you almost couldn't see the tape.
Having said all this, I, too, would like to know the best type of standard silver duct tape, for when the Gorilla is just a bit too much.
David
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#266098 - 12/27/13 01:38 AM
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I put our 25-pound team weight together with Gorilla Tape and it held up easily for 10 hours and 18+ miles in the pouring rain. Gorilla Tape is as tough as nails. Love the stuff, I have 3 rolls laying around.
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#266387 - 01/05/14 02:38 AM
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#266389 - 01/05/14 05:14 AM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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I always see fairly simple uses for duct tape. But i kinda think that somewhere out there is a true duct tape master ... Who can cut strips into ingenious patterns and do all kinds of amazing stuff. Anybody seen anything like that??
Pete
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#266393 - 01/05/14 08:29 AM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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I always see fairly simple uses for duct tape. But i kinda think that somewhere out there is a true duct tape master ... Who can cut strips into ingenious patterns and do all kinds of amazing stuff. Anybody seen anything like that??
Pete If you want to see the duct tape masters, you need to come to Alaska. This article is by now a ten years old and thus a bit dated, but still rings true: Alaska stuck on duct tape Anchorage had just held its annual Duct Tape Ball. Performers at the Fly By Night Club have been playing rolls of duct tape as musical instruments for 16 years. Pilots use the stuff to repair airplane wings. Dog mushers stick it on their faces to prevent frostbite. And duct tape — to the surprise of no one in Alaska — has its adherents in the criminal ranks. In 1994, when authorities found the body of Joe Vogler, leader of the state's secessionist Independence Party, it was wrapped in a blue tarp and bound with duct tape. No home, car, snowmobile or boat is without it. "Duct tape is what built Alaska," said local filmmaker Laura Bliss Spaan, who is working on a "duc-umentary" titled "Sticking it out in Alaska." "It's what holds us together." Broken headlight? Ripped parka? A bear chewed the wing off your Cessna? The sturdy adhesive is the one solid answer to almost any Alaska problem.
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The Fly By Night Club, which serves up wacky musical comedy and a full Spam menu, was the first to elevate the drab, little roll to musical instrument in the mid-1980s, said the club's owner, known as Mr. Whitekeys. For live performances, the club's duct-tape musician stands at the microphone and rips the tape to a particular rhythm, making a kke kke kke sound. The fall show featured a banjo-vs.-duct tape duel. For the Christmas show, a club organizer built a 4˝-by-2-foot instrument dubbed an acoustic wave golden tone stereosonic ductaphone and played heartwarming renditions of "Jingle Bells" and "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer."
Sadly, the Fly By Night Club is no more.  But thankfully, Mr. Whitekeys ("It ain't easy, being sleazy!") still does shows every now and then.  Given enough duct tape and blue tarps, an Alaskan can solve almost any problem. Up here, we have the Yoda's of the duct tape world!
Edited by AKSAR (01/05/14 08:38 AM)
Edit Reason: It aint easy being sleazy!
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#266395 - 01/05/14 02:06 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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I always see fairly simple uses for duct tape. But i kinda think that somewhere out there is a true duct tape master ... Who can cut strips into ingenious patterns and do all kinds of amazing stuff. Anybody seen anything like that?? Ten bucks and a trip to the dollar store can occupy my three pre-teen girls for many hours indeed. They get patterned duct tape and make duct tape crafts, including wallets, purses, origami, and sculpture. Middle Daughter made herself a gigantic Number 2 pencil as a Halloween costume entirely out of duct tape one year. I'm a little surprised that they haven't been buying red and gold duct tape in bulk to build an Iron Man suit. Perhaps they're not Alaskan in their ingenuity but they're very artistic :-).
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#266396 - 01/05/14 02:31 PM
Re: qualities of duct tapes...rated
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Yeah exactly. Duct tape origami. Would like to see some links. I will look around myself.
Pete
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