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#262857 - 08/26/13 04:30 AM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Phaedrus Offline
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The First Strike stuff is sorta like something you'd get out of a vending machine. That's probably right in line with the tastes of most of the folks that will be eating it.
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#262864 - 08/26/13 01:49 PM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: JPickett]
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" looking for a UK source for some 250ml cans of a decent Cabernet Sauvignon"
I would need several of those before I tackled a can of haggis.


How to make Homemade Haggis, a cheap and cost effective meal.

A trip down to the butcher today and you too could be eating haggis this evening. wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVJQsdyl9eE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSfaJTlMUSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCyuLyZOyJo

Why would you eat that!... sick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mallVNe8i2s

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#262935 - 08/27/13 11:11 AM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Am Fear Liath Mor wrote

> British food is pretty poor<

I spy a feeble excuse for some gratuitous humour.

http://www.michellehenry.fr/European.jpg

based on personal experience I'd say the cliche of the british, irish (that's me), finns, belgiums and danes is correct.
Dunno where the 'a german joke is no laughing matter' idea came from. They are a fun bunch.

qjs

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#262936 - 08/27/13 11:53 AM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Haggis are an endangered species and should be left alone!

qjs

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#262943 - 08/27/13 01:59 PM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: quick_joey_small]
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I've had haggis just once - served in a restaurant in Contin. It was delicious! Much better than the stuff at McDonald's in Edinburgh....
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#263022 - 08/29/13 07:23 PM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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The French RCIRs were ordered and were delivered a few days ago, so time for a quick partial review.

The location for the test; Bodin Point for some fishing yesterday.





Menu 3 HALAL Chili Con Carne, Pasta and Salmon Salad, Tuna Fish Pate, Soup, Biscuits, coffee, chocolate and caramels, nougat and fruit jelly, powder drink, chocolate bar, jam, tissues, reheating kit and water puri tablets.

Some items are missing though, the Fruit Jelly and Chocolate bar was eaten the previous night and they were excellent for sweets. The Chocolate bar was a 64% cocoa content so not milk chocolate. The Powder drink was ditched as was a source of phenylalanine (artificial sweetener)



Tuna pate and Biscuits. The Tuna Pate was excellent, the biscuits were not particularly seasoned. Some MacVita Wholewheat Crackers or Stockans Oatcakes from the Supermarket would be preferred.



Salmon Pasta. It doesn't get better for Military food. Big tasty chunks of quality Salmon and tender Fusilli pasta. Keep the tin you may need it later for the potato and leek soup. A nice glass of wine would have been preferred over the Lager Beer. Each can is 300 grams net - gross 328 grams so each can weighs around 28 grams compared to a flexible foil pouch at 15 grams.



Hot Beverage pack, Hot Chocolate and two black teas and two Coffee sachets.



Prunes to keep you regular with your digestive system. This might be useful as apposed to the US MREs with its weight saving toilet tissue specification. blush

I'm pretty sure the rest is of a high quality. The main canned main means are excellent and the hexamine tabs and stove allow you to make a hot cup of tea and coffee. Certainly an advantage over chemical heater bags.

Overall, a well thought out Military ration, even field stripping would allow all the main meals to be stacked efficiently for storage in a backpack side pouch. Excellent quality food for the price available in the UK. To bump the RCIR ration from 3200 to 4000+ Kcal (British 24hr MCR) would be easy with a couple of MET RX protein bars.






Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (08/29/13 07:43 PM)

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#263273 - 09/05/13 02:36 PM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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I have eaten several French RCIRs as well as several FSRs. If weight isn't an issue, I do like the RCIRs. The food is rather tastey and there is a lot of variety there. Plus the Esbit stove is a nice touch. I often put an unused one in my pack for emergency uses. I also love the biscuit sweet with a cup of coffee.

As for the FSR, it is light and is meant to be eaten with no real preperation. So, on a rainy day, it is usually easy to just grab one of the sandwiches. It does get "old" if that is all you are eating tho. This type of ration is also specified to not be eaten for any extended period of time.

So, there is really a place for both types, depending on what you want from them. A hot meal with variety, but heavier weight, or a light / convenient meal. I often supplement the FSRs with a Flameless Ration Heater and a hot beverage bag in order to have a quick cup of coffee.
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#263283 - 09/05/13 07:08 PM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: Mike_H]
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So, on a rainy day, it is usually easy to just grab one of the sandwiches.


I was in the Arbroath cages yesterday, the Esbit stove worked well with RCIR main entrées, it was a bright sunny blue sky day.

Bridgford Sandwiches and some Chemical heater bags might be more useful when fishing on a more blustery Winters day when trying to reel in a Cod. grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXMNVtw-pDA

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#263284 - 09/05/13 07:40 PM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: quick_joey_small]
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Originally Posted By: quick_joey_small
I spy a feeble excuse for some gratuitous humour.

http://www.michellehenry.fr/European.jpg

based on personal experience I'd say the cliche of the british, irish (that's me), finns, belgiums and danes is correct.
Dunno where the 'a german joke is no laughing matter' idea came from. They are a fun bunch.

The image of a nation can change over time. Prior to WWI, we French were known for being hellbent for leather.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#263286 - 09/05/13 08:28 PM Re: First Strike v French RCIR [Re: Mike_H]
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I often supplement the FSRs with a Flameless Ration Heater and a hot beverage bag in order to have a quick cup of coffee.


I picked up a Trekmates Flameless cook flask for about $8 on sale last week. It should be handy for the occasional hot cup of hot chocolate/Soup etc in very difficult conditions. Flameless high heat packs still cost around a buck a piece though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPt35oJ5-kk

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