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#261809 - 07/12/13 04:04 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: ]
haertig Offline
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Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99

Or a box of feminine hygene pads (the large bulky style) and an Ace wrap.

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#261812 - 07/12/13 04:28 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
TeacherRO Offline
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For leave behind books; 'Where there is no doctor'- useful, though badly out of date. is there something newer?

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#261814 - 07/12/13 04:37 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
JPickett Offline
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"Bismuth subsalicylate is an older drug, and is less effective in some studies."
I don't argue with RN's or Physicians, both have different training than I do. My only argument with Loperamide is, as I understand it, it effectively paralyses the G.I. tract; trapping any microbes in the gut. Pepto Bismol slows but doesn't stop peristalsis. If a person has food poisoning or some similar problem, they may continue to feel sick until the causitive agent is expelled from the body. That may take longer if the person has taken Loperamide. But I don't argue with R.N.'s

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#261815 - 07/12/13 04:40 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
JPickett Offline
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NurseMike, Thanks for that PubMed link. I hadn't seen that one before.

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#261816 - 07/12/13 04:53 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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These kits are going to third-world countries, not to a war zone.

Jeanette Isabelle
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I'm not sure whose twisted idea it was to put hundreds of adolescents in underfunded schools run by people whose dreams were crushed years ago, but I admire the sadism. -- Wednesday Adams, Wednesday

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#261828 - 07/12/13 06:55 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: ]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
Originally Posted By: Jeanette_Isabelle
These kits are going to third-world countries, not to a war zone.


Same difference. Besides QuikClot isn't just for gunshots. Bad cuts or trauma by car or really anything. My mother keeps some on hand for her elderly neighbor who is on a blood thinner and is prone to falling. She's used it a few times.

These kits come with a trauma pad, triangular bandage and two gauze rolls. I'm adding duct tape and an elastic bandage. Space and cost are an issue. Besides what I have mentioned, what do I need?

Jeanette Isabelle
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I'm not sure whose twisted idea it was to put hundreds of adolescents in underfunded schools run by people whose dreams were crushed years ago, but I admire the sadism. -- Wednesday Adams, Wednesday

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#261832 - 07/12/13 07:25 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: ]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
One trauma pad really isn't enough. If you've got major bleeding one will get soaked through pretty quickly. As for the gauze rolls it depends on the denier and length and width. I don't go into the woods with less than four 2" wide rolls at 4 yards each.

Add a second 5” x 9” trauma pad? Noted.

The two gauze rolls included are 2” x 4 yards. As I said, I'm adding an elastic bandage and duct tape.

Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
Might want to also get some broad spectrum antibiotics for any intestinal issues.

What would you recommend?

Jeanette Isabelle
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I'm not sure whose twisted idea it was to put hundreds of adolescents in underfunded schools run by people whose dreams were crushed years ago, but I admire the sadism. -- Wednesday Adams, Wednesday

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#261836 - 07/12/13 07:51 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: ]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
Dr. Weiss in his book recommends around 6 antibiotics. Depending on the area defines which ones I would bring with me. Your Doctor can help you decide. Most likely bringing Amoxicillin, Doxycycline and Ciprofloxacin would be good.

I'm not a doctor, keep in mind. So have those going consult their primary care physicians.

Oh, you are referring to prescription medications. I don't know how practical that would be in a kit modified for missionaries.

Jeanette Isabelle
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I'm not sure whose twisted idea it was to put hundreds of adolescents in underfunded schools run by people whose dreams were crushed years ago, but I admire the sadism. -- Wednesday Adams, Wednesday

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#261840 - 07/12/13 11:55 PM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
boatman Offline
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An inexpensive alternate for trauma pads are womens maxipads.They are sterile and work just as good....

BOATMAN
John

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#261845 - 07/13/13 02:35 AM Re: Build a Wilderness First Aid Kit [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Nothing inspirers confidence like using a maxi pad. A 5” x 9” trauma pad is only $0.19.

Jeanette Isabelle
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I'm not sure whose twisted idea it was to put hundreds of adolescents in underfunded schools run by people whose dreams were crushed years ago, but I admire the sadism. -- Wednesday Adams, Wednesday

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