Just came across the packing list for an INCH pack...which weighed 95 pounds (43 kg). Um. While some special forces packs weigh 100# its not a good choice for the rest of us - it is, in fact too heavy to carry downstairs to the truck.

Part of the reason for this was the 1300 rounds of ammo.

That's really freakin' heavy even for a bag in a car kit. My BOB (which is definitely not designed to be an INCH bag) is much lighter, but I would still pick and choose what to bring from it before attempting to carry it on my back for more than a few miles.

In my mind, no component of a kit may be larger than my wife can carry.

Wow, I can't imagine walking around with that much weight on my back. My two dumbbells are 90 lbs together and I can already feel the stress on my knees when I walk with them, 95 lb on my back I'd probably need new knees in a day or two.

On one occasion I carried a cast fossil (mammoth jaw) about a mile over rudimentary trails, Total climb was uphill. I went slow and easy and didn't injure myself. I was going quite slow and my mobility was definitely impaired. At my request, the cast was weighed afterward - 90 pounds plus 5 pounds for the pack frame.

For most of us, not a practical prospect. A really big, fit guy might be able to carry a load that big, but it would be exceptional.

...and the likelihood of injury goes way up.

1300? Were they going to sunday school? I have carried in excess of 100, most notably in a mock bug out last summer. Not a whole lot of fun. And yes, injuries would be a serious consideration, as well as mobility and speed.

I wonder if that person is planning to bug out on foot or by vehicle. 100 pounds in the trunk isn't unreasonable but probably would be for most people if you had to hump it.

Our family bob is super heavy (haven't weighed it) but it supports up to five people, when we add in my personal GHB and my son's survival pack. Our plan is to divvy it up if we have to move on foot, otherwise it's stored in one pack and plan A is to take the jeep if we need to vacate.

As we develop more skill, the weight of our packs is falling. It could well be that this person is new and just doesn't feel confident enough in their skills yet to start shedding weight. Of course, all that ammo might mean they have a different take on survival preparedness than most of us seem to have.

It sounded to me as if they were expecting to either see battle, stand off a siege or hunt a lot Jac. Until I know what calibers, magazines weapons and equipment, including food, it's hard to say what thier skill level is. My BOB is huge, plus there are other bags and duffels to support it. Are they carrying MRE's or FD? MRE's add up wieght, and bulk fast.

I can easily walk out the door with a forty pound pack and do fine for several days, assuming some sort of water source. That would typically include some non essential luxuries. If I figure really close, I could get by with a thirty pound pack in good conditions and still be safe and comfortable.

I ruck at least once a week with a pack that weighs 30 or so pounds and am working my way up to 50 or so. 95 pounds? Screw that.