I couldn't agree more Tracker. A good teacher is only half of the equation. Good students are needed too. If they are not paying attention for one reason or another these things can happen. <br><br>I really liked your more detailed account of the fireless incident. I found it very interesting. Although I had no idea the thread would head in this direction because of that example, it has proved very insightful indeed in several ways.<br><br>It also has me reading my TB Wilderness Survival book again. Good book!