Accusing a source of an agenda without being able to spell out what it is isn't exactly persuasive. If you can cite better sources or statistics, please do so. I mean, if facts don't matter, I can just say, "Every colorado resident thinks Aurora is the safest place to live in. Haertig must have some kind of weird agenda is posting a statement like that."

Here's a source that proclaims NYC's safety record, citing FBI stats. I haven't dug up FBI's original report -- maybe NY Post misrepresented it (it's not a great newspaper, after all) -- but you should if you want to dispute it:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_KwpQPtSU9ivJn69UinZMWM

A few relevant sentences: "One small thing about the Big Apple is the crime rate -- New York is America's safest big city by a mile, new FBI crime stats show." "And of the 261 cities with more than 100,000 residents, New York's crime rate ranked 246th." "The story was far grimmer in small-town America in 2008... Places with fewer than 10,000 residents charted a 5.5 percent rise in murders, a 1.4 percent increase in rape and a 3.9 percent rise in robbery."

I don't think this is the definitive statement, but it largely agrees with my experience of living in New York. NYC became much safer during Giuliani's mayorship. Was it because of his police tactics, or was it because he just got lucky with the economy? Who knows, but it got safer.

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Edited by chaosmagnet (04/24/13 06:34 PM)