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#258608 - 04/05/13 06:00 PM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: AKSAR]
hikermor Offline
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Helicopters! - Can't live without them and sometimes you can't live with them. The only SAR related memorial service I have hadto attend was for two Arizona DPS crew whose chopper crashed as they were returning to base after their final flight. They had just dropped off some of our guys or it would have been a lot worse...

My condolences for your situation. I have never met a helo pilot I didn't like...
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#258613 - 04/05/13 06:34 PM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: LED]
tmurase Offline
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Registered: 03/12/11
Posts: 6
Loc: California, USA
Originally Posted By: LED
Glad they were found. Sounds like typical SoCal hikers. Shorts, t-shirt, maybe a bottle of water. People just don't appreciate the harsh terrain, variable temp, and lack of water. 85F (29C) day and 55F (12C) night is normal.


Weather-wise, this past week has been pretty mild, in fact fog hindered searching by helicopter in the area according to news reports.

But yes, it's very typical to see people out hiking with just the clothes on their back and maybe a bottle of water. If you're out there geared up in a backpack, you're generally in the minority.

From the LA Times:
Quote:
Dr. Michael Ritter said Thursday that Cendoya would remain in the hospital for a few days and that the rescued hiker was hoping his ordeal would convince others to be better prepared.

"He is very concerned that we offer pointers to all the hikers out there so that they can take care," the doctor said.


(from: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0405-hikers-20130405,0,7897433.story )

Maybe we'll start seeing more folks out on the trails with their backpacks.

It's a bummer to hear that one of the rescuers got injured in all of this. I hope the deputy makes a good recovery.

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#258708 - 04/09/13 04:55 AM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: RNewcomb]
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#258710 - 04/09/13 05:56 AM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: RNewcomb]
Phaedrus Offline
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Registered: 04/28/10
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Loc: Big Sky Country
It makes me wonder if drugs were involved. That's a pretty short time to be in such dire shape. I wonder if they were super dehydrated well before they began their hike? Guess they also don't know much about the rules of three! One of them said they didn't know if they'd survive the night since they were out of water. Dude, you don't die of dehydration in one day! At least, not in that climate.

Still, glad they made it through alive. Hopefully they'll know better next time.

BTW, I wonder if the "animal" they fought off was the dragon they'd been chasing? wink
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#258712 - 04/09/13 10:52 AM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: Phaedrus]
spuds Offline
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Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
It makes me wonder if drugs were involved.
BTW, I wonder if the "animal" they fought off was the dragon they'd been chasing? wink
Yes,wife feels the same way. Wouldnt be surprised if hospital did a drug screen,and wouldnt surprise if HIPPA keeps the answer hidden,think those with suspicions might be on to something.

Man that Deputy was injured bad,glad he is out of ICU.

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#258727 - 04/09/13 05:56 PM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: Phaedrus]
bacpacjac Offline
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Registered: 05/05/07
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
I wonder if they were super dehydrated well before they began their hike?


Seems like a good jump-off point for a PSA: "They" say that most people are chronically dehydrated, even wihtout the strains of outdoor exercise.

-start hydrating BEFORE you head out the door
-don't wait until you are thirsty to drink
-don't be fooled into thinking that just because it's not hot and dry outside that hydration isn't important
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#258730 - 04/09/13 06:54 PM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: Phaedrus]
ducktapeguy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
It makes me wonder if drugs were involved.


I almost assumed that from the very beginning. A lot of things just didn't make sense. To get lost in that area for 4 days would take some really, really bad luck and multiple bad decisions. I wonder if we'll ever hear the real story.


Edited by ducktapeguy (04/09/13 06:54 PM)

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#260189 - 05/02/13 05:25 AM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: RNewcomb]
ducktapeguy Offline
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It was drugs

I guess we know the real story now.


Edited by ducktapeguy (05/02/13 05:25 AM)

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#260214 - 05/02/13 08:01 PM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: RNewcomb]
Phaedrus Offline
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Loc: Big Sky Country
Can't say I'm shocked!
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#260215 - 05/02/13 08:12 PM Re: Trabuco Canyon Hikers [Re: Phaedrus]
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You might be able to die in one day out here during the summer. Assuming you went straight from a home to the desert early in the morning with no prep or gear.

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