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#25790 - 03/14/04 07:31 PM Re: Tracer rounds
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Yup. I started pulling targets there when I was about eight, and shooting (informal then) at about the same time. Probably one of the reasons my ears are shot now (no one thought of ear protection back then). I can still remember how small that bull is at 1000 yards...
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#25791 - 03/14/04 07:34 PM Re: Tracer rounds
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My wife has Glazers in her house gun, a 2" .38. Mainly because she is not really a gun person and they have almost no recoil. They are supposed to work well as long as the bad guy isn't wearing a real heavy coat, or doesn't weight about 500 pounds (putting the vitals too far in to reach)...
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#25792 - 03/14/04 08:40 PM Re: Tracer rounds
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The Glazers have always been tauted for the safety edge, low penetration through walls, doors, etc. However, several years back, I read an article in one of the gun magazines (I don't remember which one) that did a comparison shoot for effect on the target. For comparison, they shot a beef carcass at point blank range with a .410 shotgun and from 15 ft. with a Glazer .45 gov't. auto. and the wound cavities were almost identical. I was so impressed that I had to do some "field testing" myself, and afterwards, I was just as impressed. To this day, I have a clip full of Glazers for "things that go bump in the night". As far as the penetration (or lack thereof) I've never done any testing to back their claims, but I can say that it IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS than hard ball ammo. Bottom line... the round empties all of it's energy into the target, and in my opinion, a massive wound with little or no "through and through" ballistics is much more effective than a narrow channel running completely through a target that goes into shock and shoots back. For those of you who haven't already guessed, yes I am a big fan of the .45, and while I'd rather have a 9mm than a hand full of nothing, I don't want enything less than a .45 for defensive use, although, for anything under 30 yards, NOTHING beats a 12 guage pump.
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#25793 - 03/15/04 07:26 AM Re: Tracer rounds
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Thanks for the feedback.
I have a 6" Colt Python for the "night gun", (can always use it as a club) with the first two chambers empty, next two with Glazer slugs and the final two with .38 ammo. I read that the idea of having the first two chambers empty is a decent margin of safety if the gun ends up in the wrong hands. Just have to remember that if you need to make use of it.
If an "unknown" were to come into a home in the middle of the night, the best non-lethal weapon would be the sound of the action of a pump shotgun, provided they knew what it sounded like.

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#25794 - 03/15/04 09:05 PM Re: Tracer rounds
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Ditto on the pump gun. In my experience, even someone whose never actually heard the sound, finds their hands reaching for the ceiling when they hear a slide action being cycled behind them...Thanks Hollywood. <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#25795 - 03/15/04 10:41 PM Re: Tracer rounds
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I have to agree with the Glasser rounds for use in the house.The few well documented uses of them that I've read show that they do work well. As the saying goes, a 12 gauge pump will handle most "social situations". Here in CA both tracer and incinderary ammo are prohibited, they can and do start fires.

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