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#25690 - 03/11/04 04:14 PM Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
There's a movement afoot, I believe, to ban lighters from air travel. So I have begun carrying my StrikeMaster Sparky as part of my EDC kit.

Has anyone who carries a firesteel or flint & striker as part of their EDC ever had trouble passing through jury duty or airport security checks with it?

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#25691 - 03/11/04 05:49 PM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
elnath Offline
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Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 38
Loc: SouthEast New Hampshire
I've had a Ferro/Mg rod covered with a section of heat shrink on my key ring EDC for several years including 250,000+ miles of commercial flying over the past several years (ugh). Although I've had several "interesting" conversations with a/p security over various items, I have never had any problem. My guess is none of them know what it is, but figure it isn't threatening (looks like a 2.5 inch long plastic rod with the tube on it).

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#25692 - 03/11/04 06:39 PM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
Cool. May I ask what else is on your EDC key ring?

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#25693 - 03/12/04 06:30 PM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
elnath Offline
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Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 38
Loc: SouthEast New Hampshire
Sure!

A white photon III with a button compass epoxied to the back, a miniature Suunto baseplate compass, a circular screwdriver, and a Leatherman P4 Squirt that has a BP microsnap on it so I can remove it for security checks.

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#25694 - 03/12/04 09:18 PM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
So what do you tell security when they ask you what your firesteel is or does?

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#25695 - 03/13/04 05:23 AM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
elnath Offline
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Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 38
Loc: SouthEast New Hampshire
None of them has ever asked!

Now doesn't that make you feel safer?

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#25696 - 03/13/04 07:30 AM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
benjammin Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
That figures. BTW, they just finished adding the newest security systems to our local fed bldg, so now anytime I have to go work on their communications equipment, I have to pass all my tools, equipment and supplies through the security systems just like all the schmoes off the street, only I have a security clearance and a badge, and I am an employee of the prime contractor for the area. Talk about overkill!!! I've moved all my metal (except my coin purse) into my messenger bag, that way I can just toss it all on the conveyor instead of digging it out of my pockets and dumping it in the bypass bin. Then, once you are in, it is still like the opening of a "Get Smart" episode to go anywhere in the bldg. Thank God I'm on the clock for all this. That's why I don't fly, you'd have to pay me to stand in those lines and deal with all the headaches.
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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
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#25697 - 03/13/04 09:37 AM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
Anonymous
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Sounds to me (just to be safe) would be to pack a couple of different types of Magnifiers. Bruton's catalog has at least one small Compass with a built-in one. And there are others that are combi devices with integrated LED Flashlight, Whistle, etc. Another is a highly flexible Pocket Lens from www.campmor.com that would pass anywhere and is virtually unbreakable.

Someone on my thread suggested a P-38, but I don't believe that is foolproof as it has a rather sharp point.

The best Fire Starter option would be to somehow replace the metal prong on your belt buckle with a Flint Rod! I'd wager to bet that No X-Ray machine would even suspect that. Unless it can scan for this particular type of metal one could get thru any airport in the U.S. Maybe the Israeli's would stop you. LOL

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#25698 - 03/13/04 10:51 AM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
Anonymous
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How about if you took the opener flap off the P-38?
You would have a good piece of steel for spark making purposes, but no sharp edge to worry the TSA.
Hmm. Heading to the surplus store this afternoon to get some for experimentation purposes.

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#25699 - 03/13/04 04:25 PM Re: Lighters, firesteels, and security checks
elnath Offline
Newbie

Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 38
Loc: SouthEast New Hampshire
Just don't confuse logical arguments with the TSA policies....

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