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#25681 - 03/13/04 04:23 AM Re: Madrid tragedy
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Registered: 11/14/03
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Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
The attack happened in Spain, so the "established governments" with the most to gain by suppressing rights are on the Europeon continent.

I do not know that Western governments have anything to gain from what happened in Spain, but there are many Europeon governments that may have an interest.

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#25682 - 03/13/04 04:35 AM Re: Madrid tragedy
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Minime:

You are right, but the point I did not clearly state is that the "whole" government of any country is never at fault. Because of the complexities of governments, you can have cells of fanatics operating while being part of the government, yet not sanctioned to do what they decide by and for themselves.

The movie "Three Days of the Condor" was a perfect example of a renagade government cell that when found was terminated, but to cover the mess, the last remaining innocent (Robert Redford) had to be killed.

The movies "The Dogs of War", and "The Parallex View" showed how a small force or a series of actions could effect profound changes in a society or one persons life.

Accepting the realities of what could happen does not make one paranoid or unpatriotic.

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#25683 - 03/13/04 04:43 AM Re: Madrid tragedy
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DBAguy:

I was born in Eboli, Italy in a refugee camp for people who lost the war against the Communists in Yugoslavia. My father fought in that war and taught me the lessons he had learned about governments and wars.

He taught me that ideology is usually manipulated by those that seek power and/or profit. It makes sense to me that those in power who know that they can create chaos and profit by it are more likely to do so than those that are "mad at the world".

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#25684 - 03/13/04 04:45 AM Re: Madrid tragedy
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Chris:

Agreed and done.

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#25685 - 03/13/04 09:31 PM Re: Madrid tragedy
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Agree with your words 100%, all the way. God will tend the victims, we should tend to the purpetrators of any and all acts of terrorism with enough force to convince would-be's that it isn't going to be a winning proposition for them.

Troy

P.S. Prayers to those victims and their families.

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#25686 - 03/13/04 10:02 PM Re: Madrid tragedy
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Didn't see this before my last post on the subject, agreed with all respect.

Troy

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#25687 - 03/14/04 04:54 AM Re: Madrid tragedy
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Registered: 01/07/04
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Loc: Pttsbg SWestern Pa USA N-Amer....
Toward Bringing People some More Up to Date,-

I've just Heard on the News this Evening, that

Al Qaida has Itself Claimed Responsibility for It, (Basque Separatists / Terrorists over the Past Few Days have also *Denied* their Involvement, or so they say),

An Al Qaida Video Tape Claiming Responsibility for the Explosions was also Recently Found at the Site,

and that this Occurred Not only on the 11th of a Month, but Exactly 2 1/2 Years After our own Sept. 11th.

I Extend All Sympathy and Solidarity to our Spaniard Friends, at This Time.

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Edited by ScottRezaLogan (03/14/04 05:43 AM)
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#25688 - 03/14/04 10:52 PM Re: Madrid tragedy
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... some 911 or 912 days after the New York attacks, if I'm right in my calculation....
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#25689 - 03/15/04 06:06 AM Re: Madrid tragedy
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You've Really Uncovered something there. [color:"black"] [/color] [email]frenchy[/email]
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