Hi



otterbox1000 + over 3 meters of paracord (4 inner strands,don't know how strong it is)


BIC lighter holds items , it fits perfectly <img src="images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
there is some room still



BCB survival tool
Victorinox SwissTool [scissors,tweezers,toothpick,knife,pen,nail file,protractor,ruler,pin]
flint striker with magnesium [cutted down] and water purification pills [chlorine with silver]
LED light
compass [very small but I probably change it]
fishing line [9,8 kg strenght,10 meters], dental floss [1 meter]
fish hooks[5] and weight,safety pins[2],thread[about 3 meters],needle
duct tape[cutted down, about 20 cm, camo <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> ]
pencil [from IKEA, thinned]

and the other half:



BIC lighter
paper
bandaids
matches
money
drugs[aspirin,carbon,APAP(painkiller),hydrogen peroxide]x2
copper wire[1 meter]
saw[with safety pin]
2 razor blades[not antiseptic but can be sterilized in fire]
and some plastic bags ie. for water

Best Regards
kozi

[[forgive me my english]]

Very nice!

Nice kit.
I have a few questions though.
Why the swisscard in its case? You could strip out the items and it would take less space. You can wrap some card around the blade of the swisscard to protect it and thread the pin through the card like some sewing needle sets as well. Also a heavy duty sewing needle as well.
It would save you considerable space.
The pen, tweezers, file and tooth pick could be put togther pretty close.

You should also add some heavy duty aluminum foil. You could fold some to the size of the swisscard and that should give you enough material to make a small container to cook/boil water with.

I like the mini compass. I can't find those little brass compasses here where I live.

HTH
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kozi: welcome to the forum my polish friend..do'nt worry about your english, we speak survival here. <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />..nice kit kozi..have you taken your kit out yet and field tested it.. for my kit i like to use a tobacco tin its a lot less bulky and rides in my pocket better than the plastic otter case..i have a question for you, are there any outdoor shops in poland were you can buy purpose made survival items?and or survival items made in poland..vince g.

Thanks


You're right - I keep it in case because all items are easy to pull out and put back [no plastic bags or sth.], but I'll do it soon <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
How it looks like [weight, thick]? Now I have normal foil - it only shines <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I read somewhere that people had some problems with that [to make a cup and boil water]

I'll try find plastic bags/alu foils used for roasting - maybe it will work


It was integrated in watch strap but I buy it about 15 years ago - sunnto clipper is [bigger] option I think

not whole kit [ I didn't try to fish or hunt <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> - it's illegal here] but other items work fine

I use otterbox because of it easy access to all items and solid lock [drawback of tobbaco tin],I know it is bulky and hard to boil water in it[ it also looks not so bad in urban environment]


there are military,hunting,fishing,climbing,hiking shops but I didn't see typical outdoor shop with great choice of equipment of all kind
for example there is impossible to buy otterbox [peli - yes],paracord,weatherproof paper,BCB matches,quick clot, some brands of lights ...

hard to buy magnesium,surefire,... and prices are...


I didn't check specially for items made in Poland, survival is still novelty here [in your meaning, "PHRASECENSOREDPOSTERSHOULDKNOWBETTER. survival" was/is very popular here], but yes - there is some survival equipment made here [even Polish Army( which usually have trashes ) have some not bad items]

Welcome to the forum! Your kit seems well assembled and complete for the most part.

I would consider it somewhat light on water carry and water treatment. Adding something like Potable Aqua iodine tablets or the chlorine version or even some Potasium Permanganate crystals would be a great addition. I would also consider it light on signalling. You have no mirror or whistle. I find that a whistle is usefull enough that I carry one on my keychain and have one in my PSK as well. A signal mirror is very usefull and I think that the StarFlash is the preferred one for bulk, clarity and weight for fitting in a PSK. Don't bother with putting money in there - If you are using the fish-hooks to feed yourself then you won't have use for the money and if you can buy dinner then you don't need the fish-hooks. If you must represent some financial means in there then jot down the numbers of your credit-card on the paper or stick a credit card in there. A credit card makes a great place to wind up the fishing line, floss, thread etc. You are also light on sewing / repair items. Some crazy glue and a needle and thread and some more safety pins and even some buttons will be truely useful. If all you have for a few weeks is what you are wearing when you get dumped in the middle of nowhere by some incident then having the ability to repair your clothes will go a long way to keeping you warm and comfortable. I also find it helpful to have a small fresnel lens with me. This needn't be in the PSK but it would fit in an Otter box.

I would think that a kit this size isn't always with you. It is too large to fit the pocket of normal clothing (as fashioned here in the states) I suppose if your normal outfit is Cargo-Pants then this would be GTG. I would think that if you moved the swiss-card,BCB survival tool and mini-bic out of your PSK then you could get the size down to a more comfortable pocket size. These tools are usefull enough in daily carry that they would be better in a more accessable location loose in another pocket. Consider replacing one of those items in your kit with a signal mirror

A PSK this small is too small to really carry the great tools we would preferr to use while in the wilderness such as a fixed blade knife and a tent so we make do with what we can fit. The reason for making a smallish kit is to have something that represents a fairly complete assortment of the essential tools that we will ALWAYS have with us. If this kit is small enough for you to carry it everywhere in the clothing you most commonly wear then Great.

If this kit is too large to comfortabley wear most of the time then you would do better to make it larger so that you have a minimalist kit for venturing and put it into a butt pack or small day pack. Since you will only be carrying it when you know you may need it it can be bigger.

You might reconsider the Otter Box as a carry item. What in this kit is truely vulnerable to damage by getting a bit wet? Can each of those items be sealed in a ziplock baggie? Can the entire kit be sealed in a zip-lock?

I keep my altoids tin water tight with some electrical tape around the edge backed up by a ranger band and some paracord and another rangerband. Works for me.

Some have gone to using a small nylon or leather zipper pouch because the flexibilty of the bag makes it more comfortable in the pocket. If the contents are in a ziplock baggie then they will be waterproof enough. The otter box will keep your stuff dry if you go diving with it or are submerged in a downed plane for some reason but short of that the ziplock will work just as well.

Some thoughts Hope not to offend just to inform. If you think they have any merrit Great if no Great. but you asked so......

First - I'm very grateful for Your thoughts
I try to explain some things
right - there are some small plastic bags but I'm looking for something bigger,stronger,fireproof and ... small I already have 10 Micropur pills (for 10 liters of water - Ag Ions with Calciumhypochlorite ) [I didn't want to unpack everything to make pictures - they are in aluminium foil (is it good?) near magnesium bar]
right
no whistle - it's bulky and I still can't see why everybody want to carry it - maybe I change my mind ... or learn to whistle on fingers?

BCB tool is shiny but - right - it isn't mirror - I will look for small mirror or mirror foil (will foil wrap on flat surface work?)[some things are hard to find here] wrong [at least for me] - money is part of urban survival (Polish Zloty and Euro - enough in example to come back to home, buy food for week , etc. not every human is "Good Samaritan") mayby I should say: " "survival", not survival " because when You dying without water in a city You just come into the shop and take it - out of necessity
We use credit cards but it's not so popular like in US, but I consider this - for greater amount, why not
I have needle,3 safety pins and 3 meters[about 9 foots] of thread [with fishing item on pictures] - this is small survival kit - buttons for important repairs I can cut off from less important places [i.eg. from cuff], but I add some needles
not useful to me as firestarter, as magnifier it must be really small to be worth adding , how thin is it?
Yes, it is always with me <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> , in cargo pants or vest or ... I didn't try this at summer yet, will see

The problem is, that one pants have 4 pockets, the other not, one have pocket with zipper, other not ... I rather prefer to attach everything to one packet and must not remeber to take something else
It's smaller kit, I have bigger one too and a FAK of course, will see how it will work in summer , maybe I will have to change something
I know disadvantages of otterbox but:
some items are vulnerable to damage but more important - some items can hurt me [razor blades in my leg or my ... are little terrifying] , and otter box give me easy access - sometime there is no time to lose
access time and ease!

As EDC I also carry BM710 folder,Surefire E1e with KL1 and swiss tech tools

Once again thanks for Your opinions

The above reasons are why I always have a "man purse" of one type or other. When I want it a small one, Eddie Bauer's soft sided one is with me, and the FatBoy most of the other time.I just dislike carrying things in my pockets - and a PSK the size of Kozi's is a piece of cake to carry.

If you can get away with cargo pants everywhere then the otter box is fine and the advantage of only having one thing to grab and stick in your pockets in the morning is good. I have generally been somewhat more bothered by the fashion police and cannot wear cargo pants to work. I get away with my vest most of the time but when I don't then I have my PSK in my pants pocket. I also find that it isn't too much of a bother for me to stick a few loose items in other pockets so the only things in my PSK are items that I don't need constant access to.

Constant access to your otter box means that there are many opportunities for it to be opened and spilled all over the ground thus losing important pieces of your gear.

Sticking the blades into your thigh is a true concern but I have found that folding them into a piece of cardboard will adequately protect them and me. Also you might try keeping them in the little plastic case that you often buy them in.

Anyway, Here's my kit