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#256174 - 02/03/13 08:10 PM Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics
chaosmagnet Offline
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We've had several issues recently with posters failing to use appropriate courtesy. I've sent more "gentle reminders" in the last two weeks than in the previous six months.

While I've tried to moderate with a light touch, it doesn't seem to be working. If I wouldn't want my young daughters to see the language, or if it gives the appearance of a personal attack, I'm going to be taking action.

Also we've had a tremendous upswing in inappropriate political commentary around firearms. Firearms threads are welcome if they are entirely apolitical. Do not even mention the politics around firearms in any thread on Around The Campfire. Henceforward anything that so much as smells like political commentary about guns will result in threads being locked, posts being edited or deleted, and harsher actions if warranted.

If any part of this is unclear, let me know.


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#256176 - 02/03/13 09:53 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: chaosmagnet]
Russ Offline
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Thanks Chaos, you came after me once and it too was appropriate.

I would like to thank Doug for the link in the now closed thread on the shotgun photo. The article makes a very good case. I saw some of the port issues in the photo myself, but not all that he pointed out. He makes a very strong argument for the image being photoshop'd.
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#256181 - 02/04/13 04:05 AM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: chaosmagnet]
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A tip o' the hat to our moderators. Surely the most thankless of jobs, but at times utterly essential for our little community. There are plenty of other fungus pits for political punch-ups; let's stick to the high road.

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#256182 - 02/04/13 08:30 AM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: dougwalkabout]
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
A tip o' the hat to our moderators. Surely the most thankless of jobs, but at times utterly essential for our little community. There are plenty of other fungus pits for political punch-ups; let's stick to the high road.


Agreed Thanks Tons to the moderators for the work they do.
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#256186 - 02/04/13 03:12 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: chaosmagnet]
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I must have missed the inappropriate stuff. Or maybe I have a hard time getting offended.
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#256188 - 02/04/13 04:49 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: ILBob]
Bingley Offline
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Originally Posted By: ILBob
I must have missed the inappropriate stuff. Or maybe I have a hard time getting offended.


It's not about "getting offended." It's about policy. Political discussions often move rapidly away from emergency preparation and survival, and thus are a distraction to this forum. Secondly, even a political joke can be misrepresented. At one point you made a joke about REDACTED. We all recognized that as a joke, but that's just the sort of stuff that the press can use to distort and paint an ugly picture of this forum: "these are crazy survivalists who want to take down the government through terrorist acts!"


Edited by chaosmagnet (02/04/13 06:15 PM)
Edit Reason: Inappropriate content

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#256195 - 02/04/13 06:34 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: chaosmagnet]
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Thanks chaosmagnet. I, and I hope all the others, appreciate the reminder. Keep up the good work.

I frequently refer people to this site for the very reason that it is cordial and respectful; not to mention packed full of gobs of free info! I would not want anyone to be offended with me because I recommended this site to them.

Let's keep the good thing good.
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#256196 - 02/04/13 06:34 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: dougwalkabout]
MoBOB Offline
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
A tip o' the hat to our moderators. Surely the most thankless of jobs, but at times utterly essential for our little community. There are plenty of other fungus pits for political punch-ups; let's stick to the high road.


+1 and then some.
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#256197 - 02/04/13 06:59 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: MoBOB]
hikermor Offline
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I totally agree with the above comments. One of the great things about this forum is the civil, informative discourse, generally free from invective and personal attacks. The mods deserve a lot of credit for this..
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#256200 - 02/04/13 07:49 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: hikermor]
MDinana Offline
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
I totally agree with the above comments. One of the great things about this forum is the civil, informative discourse, generally free from invective and personal attacks. The mods deserve a lot of credit for this..

I've said this a million times ...

And I guess I better not be using those anatomy terms either ...
(though I didn't get a warning, I feel like I probably should have!)

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#256201 - 02/04/13 07:51 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: MDinana]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Originally Posted By: MDinana
(though I didn't get a warning, I feel like I probably should have!)


I removed the anatomy term and honestly was too tight for time to send you a "gentle reminder" immediately, and it slipped my mind. So, here it is: Don't do that.



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#256210 - 02/05/13 12:37 AM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: dougwalkabout]
bacpacjac Offline
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
A tip o' the hat to our moderators. Surely the most thankless of jobs, but at times utterly essential for our little community. There are plenty of other fungus pits for political punch-ups; let's stick to the high road.


I don't know what happened but I think I'm glad I missed it.

TOTALLY agree about our awesome mods. Thanks guys!
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#256215 - 02/05/13 04:16 AM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: bacpacjac]
MoBOB Offline
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Originally Posted By: bacpacjac
Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
A tip o' the hat to our moderators. Surely the most thankless of jobs, but at times utterly essential for our little community. There are plenty of other fungus pits for political punch-ups; let's stick to the high road.


I don't know what happened but I think I'm glad I missed it.

TOTALLY agree about our awesome mods. Thanks guys!


I do not know either. I think the vast majority don't either. It is good to see that there is a willingness to correct and be corrected. Good stuff!!
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#256243 - 02/05/13 07:12 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: Bingley]
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Edited by chaosmagnet (02/06/13 03:53 AM)
Edit Reason: I shouldn't have to explain this
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#256248 - 02/05/13 08:59 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: chaosmagnet]
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Many thanks to the Mod's.

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#256252 - 02/05/13 11:18 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: ILBob]
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Edited by chaosmagnet (02/06/13 03:54 AM)
Edit Reason: When you quote the offending text you're NOT making this easier for me

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#256253 - 02/06/13 12:36 AM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: chaosmagnet]
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I've had to be reprimanded once due to language and it was well deserved. I hang out on another forum also where the language would make a sailor blush and I had a momentary lapse and forgot which forum I was on at the time.

Another thanks to the mods for a tireless, thankless job. I ran my own forum for a while a couple of years ago and know exactly what goes into keeping one civil.

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#256276 - 02/06/13 04:32 PM Re: Course Correction: Courtesy and Politics [Re: chaosmagnet]
chaosmagnet Offline
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For the first time since I came on board as a moderator at ETS I am becoming angry. I've never banned a poster for anything other than spam but I came close today.

(If you have not received a PM from me, you are not the cause of my displeasure.)

POLITICAL NEWS, DISCUSSION AND COMMENTARY ARE NOT APPROPRIATE ON ETS.


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