#256112 - 02/02/13 02:08 AM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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Yes, read this a few days ago. Was interesting.
One thing that stuck out was the fact that their metal cookware rusted out. This then limited their ability to cook food, as all they could make were birch bark containers.
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#256113 - 02/02/13 03:44 AM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for the link.
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#256114 - 02/02/13 07:52 AM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for the link. Same here thanks.
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#256118 - 02/02/13 05:03 PM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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Great story. In effect, the family had been reduced to a stone age existence. Yet, they survived.
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#256134 - 02/02/13 09:27 PM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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"their metal cookware rusted out" Makes a good case for aluminum cookware.
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#256149 - 02/03/13 01:27 AM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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I was just getting ready to post the Youtube comment hercdoc posted.
It's a 3-part series.
In part three we see that they have goats and a dog. Those might have come from the modern world after their discovery.
In a couple of places in the video are what clearly are large cross-cut logs. A woman shows a hand saw. Again, maybe those are post discovery.
Also in the third segment is video of a USSR rocket launch followed by video of what apparently is a jettisoned tank or booster stage. Because I don't understand Russian, I'm only guessing that it must have come down somewhere near the homestead.
Any members fluent and want to offer a synopsis?
Using a map in the first segment, and Google Earth, I'm fairly confident I found the location. I at least got in the vicinity. What's striking is that Google Earth shows photos and videos all over the region. I guess there are few really really really isolated places left -- even in Siberia.
A thought occurred to me: Going back to the stone age from Siberia circa 1936 wasn't nearly as far a walk as going from our place in the 21st century.
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#256153 - 02/03/13 08:53 AM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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"their metal cookware rusted out" Makes a good case for aluminum cookware. If I'm not mistaken, at that time their cookware would have been cast iron or tin, as stainless steel was not in widespread use. Aluminum can also become brittle over time. Others probably know more about this than I do. Too bad they didn't have Titanium cookware.
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#256157 - 02/03/13 02:39 PM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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Really fascinating.
In my corner of the world, there are tribes still isolated in the middle of nowhere. Gov tries to modernize their lives and has issued them documents, but they still prefer to go back to lands where there is nothing (seemingly) but sands and sky.
I have seen some of the tribals when I was in gov office making documents for my son who reached 15 yo. But there is a big difference off course. In the case discussed here it is only one family, not a whole tribe. This has dragged my mind into some area maybe not many members want to head to. Namely: sex. In all tribes we have seen around here or on National Geographic, they had some form of marriage. This is not the case in ONE family where there is only brothers and sisters.
Forty or thirty years is a very long time. Maybe we can think of stravation and harsh life to be enough to keep them busy , enough to push it aside. But the story says that parents - in this case - had two kids in the wilderness. So the environment wasn't harsh enough to completely wipe out the urge .
Sorry to take the thread in this area. Just thinking aloud.
And I have seen a film a few weeks ago about some mountain villagers who went to other village to find a wife for their son. Makes me think about this family doing the same.
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#256161 - 02/03/13 04:07 PM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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Found this via the wayback machine Link Seems after discovery they have had help. In 2011 the last surving member of family, Agafya wrote a letter to appeal for help as her health was failing.
Edited by Ren (02/03/13 04:09 PM)
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#256162 - 02/03/13 04:19 PM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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"their metal cookware rusted out" Makes a good case for aluminum cookware. If I'm not mistaken, at that time their cookware would have been cast iron or tin, as stainless steel was not in widespread use. Aluminum can also become brittle over time. Others probably know more about this than I do. Too bad they didn't have Titanium cookware. Yeah, and have heard of aluminium pots/pans melting over a fire. Think alot of metal pots will fail eventually, and the chances of replacing them if living in isolation is difficult at best.
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#256278 - 02/06/13 06:24 PM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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Also in the third segment is video of a USSR rocket launch followed by video of what apparently is a jettisoned tank or booster stage. There are communities out there that make good use of jettisoned pieces of Soviet/Russian rockets that crash to earth in their vicinity. Good scrap metal is hard to come by out there, I presume. However, no telling what kind of toxic materials might remain on those rocket parts. I wouldn't be surprised if a failed "nuclear" powered satellite that crashed is now someone's chicken coop!
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#256279 - 02/06/13 06:57 PM
Re: Family Lives 40 Years in Siberia
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Great Article
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