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#220392 - 03/28/11 05:22 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: comms]
jzmtl Offline
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Registered: 03/18/10
Posts: 530
Loc: Montreal Canada
Originally Posted By: comms
Especially with all the child proofing done on them today, most are a 3-stage ignition-saftey latch, roll flint wheel, hold fluid release tab down)


The first thing I do with Bics are rip off that child resistant tab, makes turn the wheel and ignite that much easier especially with cold hands.

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#220399 - 03/28/11 06:30 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: jzmtl]
MostlyHarmless Offline
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Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 982
Loc: Norway
My solution: A small lighter case made of PET plastic (from a recyclable PET bottle) and some duct tape.

http://forums.equipped.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=214424#Post214426

Don't know if it's really worth the effort or not. For every day use I'd say just carry two. But for lighters that reside in kits it makes sense to have a little extra effort to prevent the lever to be pressed down and empty the lighter.

(I regard the safety hazard of BICs as infitesimal small)

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#220421 - 03/28/11 10:44 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: NightHiker]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Registered: 10/12/07
Posts: 1804
Loc: Southern California
Originally Posted By: NightHiker
I've never experience inadvertant ignition with a Bic and frankly don't think that's a realistic concern.

I HAVE had leakage due to breakage - once in the cargo pocket of my pants from a fall, and twice in my pack from rough handling of gear during extremely cold weather (brittle plastic).

I simply moved my lighter deeper into my pack with it had more cushioning. It's a little less convenient to get to but how often do you need immediate access to your lighter? If I was looking for a different way to protect it I'd look for a hard case and put it inside along with some tinder.
I keep a standard sized lighter in an Altoids chewing gum (not mints) tin. With a little bit of something to keep things from rattling, it's a good fit. I keep it in my pocket as part of my EDC.

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#220431 - 03/28/11 11:33 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: ScouterMan]
Richlacal Offline
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Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 778
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
The zip-tie method has worked for me,for many yrs.now!ALL of my equipment/kits have Bic lighters,When the Butane runs out,you still have a decent Spark generator for tinderquiks/pj cotton,etc.I suggest to Carry many means of Ignition,Redundancy!

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#220528 - 03/29/11 08:05 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: ScouterMan]
Ren Offline
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Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 543
Loc: Wales, UK

Perhaps get one of them lipo safe bags used to prevent erupting overcharged batteries causing disaster.

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#220530 - 03/29/11 08:43 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: ScouterMan]
ireckon Offline
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Registered: 04/01/10
Posts: 1629
Loc: Northern California
I cut a bike inner tube (basically, a rubber band) and wrapped it under the button. That's probably an unnecessary precaution, but the cost/benefit ratio is low. So, I do it anyway.
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#220567 - 03/30/11 06:28 AM Re: lighter safety [Re: hikermor]
medanum6298 Offline
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Registered: 03/29/11
Posts: 1
Loc: US
I have sprinkled mini Bics throughout my packs for years and I have never noticed any leakage or had any problems
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#255158 - 01/05/13 05:20 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: ]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
Resurrecting this because I too found a Bic recently.

I was out walking the dog this AM and as we were crossing a frost covered grass field, I saw a yellow Bic lighter lying in the grass -- yellow is very visible. It was covered in frost and obviously had been out since yesterday. I cleaned off the frost & grass clinging to it and dropped it in my pocket.

Once it warmed up to ambient in the house I gave it a try and it fired up on the first attempt. Short term freezing and frost seems to have had no impact at all. Still half full of butane too.

Not exactly a valuable find, but free is great when it works.
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#255163 - 01/05/13 08:33 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: Russ]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
I have always been impressed with the reliability of Bics, although I understand they are limited by cold and high altitude. In relatively normal conditions, if I have a Bic and a backup I figure I am ready.
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#255168 - 01/05/13 08:54 PM Re: lighter safety [Re: hikermor]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
Yep, very reliable. I really like the yellow color of this one and the fact that its already proven itself with an overnight. I put it in the CRKT tin that came with my Ritter RSK Mk5. It takes up a lot of room in the tin, but then again, fire can be a valuable commodity.
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