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#253749 - 11/23/12 08:21 PM Re: Eneloop question [Re: UTAlumnus]
Eugene Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/26/02 Posts: 2997	I charge at the default 1000mA on mine, that works out to .5C so its about where it should be. _________________________ https://connect.garmin.com/modern/profile/eugenenine https://pixelfed.social/i/web/profile/587437729469961861 https://www.alltrails.com/members/eugenenine/recordings
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#254319 - 12/05/12 01:07 PM Re: Eneloop question [Re: dougwalkabout]
spuds Old Hand Registered: 06/24/12 Posts: 822 Loc: SoCal Mtns	Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout My go-to charger for cells in constant use is the under-appreciated Duracell CEF23 with the 12VDC plug. IMO it's a pretty sweet companion (I have three actually) with my solar setup. Bummer,no longer available
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#254322 - 12/05/12 03:47 PM Re: Eneloop question [Re: spuds]
dougwalkabout Crazy Canuck Carpal Tunnel Registered: 02/03/07 Posts: 3242 Loc: Alberta, Canada	Originally Posted By: spuds Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout My go-to charger for cells in constant use is the under-appreciated Duracell CEF23 with the 12VDC plug. IMO it's a pretty sweet companion (I have three actually) with my solar setup. Bummer,no longer available No longer manufactured, but there is still new stock in circulation. The model number is CEF23DX4N. Looking very quickly, I saw some on eBay and on the Best Buy website. In years past, Best Buy dropped them to $20 for the holidays.
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#254323 - 12/05/12 05:21 PM Re: Eneloop question [Re: chaosmagnet]
haertig Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/13/05 Posts: 2322 Loc: Colorado	Originally Posted By: chaosmagnet Is there anything wrong with the charger that is sold with the batteries? I've been using it and not experiencing any difficulties. Nothing wrong with it. It is just very slow.
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#254324 - 12/05/12 05:23 PM Re: Eneloop question [Re: haertig]
chaosmagnet Sheriff Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/03/09 Posts: 3842 Loc: USA	Originally Posted By: haertig Originally Posted By: chaosmagnet Is there anything wrong with the charger that is sold with the batteries? I've been using it and not experiencing any difficulties. Nothing wrong with it. It is just very slow. I can live with that. Thank you!
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#254325 - 12/05/12 05:29 PM Re: Eneloop question [Re: haertig]
haertig Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/13/05 Posts: 2322 Loc: Colorado	I have been using the Maha 401 charger for many many years for all my NiMH's, even before Eneloops were developed. Works very well with all of them, including the Eneloops. This charger has been around forever, which says something about its design. Independent charging stations, your can charge 1, 2, 3 or 4 batteries at a time, all charge seperately and are monitored seperately. Supports both fast and slow charging. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003FJE...7BMM7VWPS93QHW9
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#254327 - 12/05/12 07:16 PM Re: Eneloop question [Re: UTAlumnus]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/03/07 Posts: 3078	Quote: What is the recommended charging rate for new model white AA & AAA Eneloops? I would charge them between 500 and 1000mA. The Ansmann Powerline 5 LCD Battery Charger for NiMH and NiCd Batteries represents good value. It will also charge C, D and 9V PP3 cells as well from the 12V auto and mains.
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#254362 - 12/06/12 09:46 PM Re: Eneloop question [Re: spuds]
spuds Old Hand Registered: 06/24/12 Posts: 822 Loc: SoCal Mtns	Originally Posted By: spuds Chaos,my experience is they will last longer with a smart charger,and very helpful to see how much capacity is left in a cell over time,amongst other things. Im very pleased with the .... --------------- La Crosse Technology BC-700 Alpha Power Battery Charger by La Crosse Technology 4.4 out of 5 stars See all reviews (537 customer reviews) \| Like (120) List Price: $49.95 Price: $39.32 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping. Details http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RSOV50/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01 ------------------ I heartily recommend this item as eneloops are costly I feel it pays for itself. That said,I charge at the 700 ma rate,I dont think Ive killed a single eneloop yet since they came out,amazing!!!! Oh,and Bud with cheapo charger,using eneloops shorter time than me,has killed some. I keep a cheapy sold with batts charger around,if cell is too discharged the charger above wont see it,30 secs on dumb charger,into smart charger and you are good to go,plus the dumb charger is a very viable backup. What I do,FWIW,seems to work OK. Got a wall flashlight,power goes out it powers up,a 2007 Got 3 nicads AA,700 ma/hr batts,Mrs thinks might be bad Put in charger in refresh mode,after a cycle got 556,660 and 690 Running it again currently 669,701 and 701,might run em a third time just because I can,LOL! Geeze I love that charger.
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#254376 - 12/07/12 03:09 AM Re: Eneloop question [Re: UTAlumnus]
MarkO Member Registered: 03/19/10 Posts: 137 Loc: Oregon	I have that BC-700 and leave it on the default charge of 200mA. Not good ? Why ?
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#254379 - 12/07/12 06:33 AM Re: Eneloop question [Re: MarkO]
Arney Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/15/05 Posts: 2485 Loc: California	Originally Posted By: MarkO I have that BC-700 and leave it on the default charge of 200mA. Not good ? Why ? The worst case with using too low a charging rate is that the charger will not effectively detect when the cell is fully charged. In that case, the charger continues to charge the cell, it is overcharged, and can be permanently damaged. Unlike the old NiCd cells, NiMH cells don't tolerate overcharging well. A higher charge rate will provide a more definitive signal to the charger when it is full, as well as recharging in a much shorter time. But that's a balancing act, too, because higher charging rates means a hotter battery and heat can damage the cell.
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