Thanks , I agree, but I'm looking for somethingin the way of an inexpensive pocket chopper like the old Marble's hatchet and the hatchet that Mors mentions, if its as good as the Mora knives sounds ideal. My present chopper is a Beck Tracker horizontal mounted so it stays out of the way, but since their out of production and the knife is going to appear in a Hollywood movie this summer, I,m retireing it from everyday useand I haven't found anything to replace it yet.