Personally, I've got a significant commute via public transit once every two weeks. On those two or three days a month, my EDC goes up significantly. I guess, to be fair, it really isn't edc then, is it? I do take that pack every day but it stays in my Jeep except on subway days.

I was thinking along those lines too,car carry.

So this would be more like car breaks down and not leaving valuables behind then?

And just a couple days when you need to carry a load? I get that,thanks,If Im reading you right.

Thanks for reply,often times folks get insulted or think youre trolling when legitimately trying to grasp a concept.

I've made an honest attempt to downsize, but like most, get caught up in the "what if "...this pic is a repost, but might be useful... broken down to 4 carry area... originating with the

key ring...pill vial with aspirin, immodium, and ibuprofen..Fenix E01 with lithium...P38 more for nostalgia...brass whistle (lost the Fox)

in a small multi tool pouch...Leatherman Juice S2... Streamlight TacPro 1L... taped together, a section of hacksaw blade, heavy needle, couple of safety pins, LMF Scout w/o handle...petroleum cotton ball in straw...tweezers

in wallet..water transport bag..blood stopper...card with micropore tape...Telfa pads...cloth knuckle bandages...dental floss...4 pack of quarters...chlorine dioxide tabs

pockets...Vic 4 pin Executive, Benchmade Axis lock, LCP

I always give the benefit of the doubt, Spuds.

You read me right. I only carry it a couple of days a month. Otherwise it's there if I need it. I do have a comprehensive kit in my Jeep if I need to bug-in there, but I can grab this pack to crash at a friend's house overnight (or the maternity ward) if I need to.

Depending on the client site I'm on, I will often bring my laptop to & from work with me daily. If I had to hoof it home, I'd be very reluctant to leave the laptop behind unless I had I very compelling reason for doing so (I can't think of one off the top of my head).

In my recent attempt at trying this out, my pack weighed a bit over 17 lbs (after stowing my leather jacket when I got too warm).

Part of this is the assumption that whatever emergency I'd be facing would be a short-term one. By having my laptop at home with me I'd have the ability (in most cases) to work remotely as things were stabilizing and getting back to normal - reducing my exposure any potential additional risk or headaches.

I'd be reluctant to stay at work in such scenarios, assuming I though getting home was a realistic option, primarily due to family responsibilities. That said, I have a shorter distance to cover than you so, like most things, individual circumstances need to be taken into consideration.

izzy and chaosmagnet,

Are either of you GRT yet, signed up for a Class, or just like the product? I was in Class 113 and signed up for Flagstaff and Phoenix, both coming up in a couple months? I ruck with my GR1 several times a week. love it.

I love the subdued design and size of the Echo, the US-made ethic and quality, Java, and the company's charitable contributions to military organizations. But the Challenge would be a long ways off for me. If I bought a GoRuck but haven't done the Challenge, would I be regarded as a "poser"?

This topic is my biggest hurdle for my EDC manbag. I have some gear that I love, but it's bigger and heavier than other gear that will get the job done adequately. For example, I love my Fenix LD10, but my Fenix LD15 will get the job done most of the time and it's twice as small. However, I have decided to carry my Fenix LD10 in my EDC manbag. A flashlight and a whistle are two things I've decided don't need to be the smallest things on the market.

I'll compromise on everything else if I must. For example, instead of carrying a P51 can opener, I'll carry a P38 or none at all. Instead of a large Widgy, I'll carry a Pic Widgy or none at all. Instead of carrying a spare AA battery and case, I'll carry a fauxton light or none at all. Instead of carrying a bandana, I'll make sure my knife can cut my T-shirt. You get the idea...

I recommend using a breakaway even if you're using weaker boot laces. Any cord that's worth a damn can strangle you. There's a thread dedicated to breakaways.

You imply breakaways are unnecessary, and then you provide two solutions (?). I just prefer to say breakaways are necessary. It's a personal decision if someone wants to take the chance to strangle themselves with a lanyard, a necktie, hair or whatever. However, it's fact that it's possible to strangle yourself with a lanyard or a necktie. Hair is a new one. Do you know any accidental instances? Anyway, I'm bald. So, this doesn't concern me personally.

My bigger concern is getting in an altercation with someone, and they obtain control over my head and body by using my lanyard or necktie. There's the common case on TV where a little woman is mad at a large man, and is able to take control over the man's whole body by yanking the man's necktie. So, I can make a breakaway to eliminate that risk on a lanyard. I just take a chance with a necktie.