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#250274 - 08/26/12 08:01 PM Re: Dave Canterbury getting new show [Re: Byrd_Huntr]
Roarmeister Offline
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Registered: 09/12/01
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Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: Byrd_Huntr
Brings us to someone like Les Stroud. Before Survivorman, he spent a year living in the woods in a tipi with his wife. Not everyone gets a chance to do that(I asked, but she wouldn't go). Nor is it possible to shuck the bindings of civilization and live in the wild like Nessmuk. Anyway, I believe you learn by doing. Any training a person gets never becomes a skill unless it is used. I think training gets your foot in the door, but time in the woods under primitive conditions is the true measure of an expert. I just don't know how you could validate a claim.


One of the proteges of Mors Kochanski and occasional instructor (Jay Kilgannon) built an XXL version of Mors' super shelter to prove the concept. From the pictures, I am guessing it was about 10'x16'x8' high, perhaps larger. It was built from a base of large logs, bent alder trees and branches to form a tall arch, then a layer of mylar reflective blankets, then a layer of plastic. He had a small wood stove, bough bed platform and table and chair in it. He spent the better part of a fall and winter living in it but apparently his girlfriend was not quite as enamored with it. Later in the winter, he said his friends took "pity on him" and offered up their houses for him to watch while they were on vacation.

After I saw Mors building the shelter, I later showed him the newer version of the AMK's mylar survival blanket (this was in 2007). He appeared to be quite interested in the material and noted how much more robust it was then the basic mylar sheets. I didn't tell him that it was about 5x the cost of the cheap mylar which would make his super shelter fairly expensive!

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#250288 - 08/26/12 11:32 PM Re: Dave Canterbury getting new show [Re: jimtanker]
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Registered: 01/28/10
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Originally Posted By: jimtanker
Well, I was just doing some knapping today with some folks who dont think very highly of him. I've heard that he likes to trade off of his name and not pay people the money that he owes them.

I for one wont abide a liar like him.


This is tough talk, as no one has established for a fact that he deserves this kind of treatment. I'm not in favor of a person exaggerating his credentials, but I hate to point a finger without hard evidence. Even then, wouldn't it be more prudent to just turn away?
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#250431 - 08/30/12 11:58 AM Re: Dave Canterbury getting new show [Re: Finn]
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Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
I am never impressed with military credentials trying to be relevant in a non-military setting. The military trains people to do things the way they want them done to support their mission(s). There are a lot of people who come out of the military with what look like very marketable skills at first glance and find that they are totally unprepared skill wise for the non-military market.

Why people think that someone having been a ranger, sniper, SEAL or in some other special forces type unit qualifies anyone as a woodsman just baffles me.
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#269787 - 05/10/14 10:10 AM Re: Dave Canterbury getting new show [Re: Byrd_Huntr]
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Registered: 04/18/11
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I just found this interesting dave founded his whole company and school on lies of his military credentials when he started wilderness outfitters archery in 2008.. read it in his own words from his original site...

snapshot of his original site from nov 21, 2008

http://web.archive.org/web/20081121084605/http://www.wildernessoutfittersarchery.com/untitled1.html

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#269789 - 05/10/14 01:07 PM Re: Dave Canterbury getting new show [Re: kcatto]
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Originally Posted By: kcatto
I just found this interesting dave founded his whole company and school on lies of his military credentials when he started wilderness outfitters archery in 2008.. read it in his own words from his original site...

snapshot of his original site from nov 21, 2008

http://web.archive.org/web/20081121084605/http://www.wildernessoutfittersarchery.com/untitled1.html


Well, I'm glad to see the usual standard of two faced Old Testament vengeful hypocrisy being exhibited. Dave Canterbury did something that he shouldn't have. Got caught. Paid the price.
Now here's the thing: He had the courage to publicly admit to his failing and to ask forgiveness for his actions. I for one have given that forgiveness to him. He's not a bad man. Just one who made a very human mistake.

And why do I call it hypocrisy? Because if anyone on this forum claims to have never lied for their own ends , well I'll show you a hypocrite and a liar.
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#269819 - 05/11/14 05:42 AM Re: Dave Canterbury getting new show [Re: Finn]
Phaedrus Offline
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Registered: 04/28/10
Posts: 3165
Loc: Big Sky Country
I agree that Canterbury has "done the time" for his crime. My only concern would be whether he really knows enough to be running a survival school. Regardless of his official qualifications I'd say he knows more than I do, and there are undoubtedly things I could learn from him.

That said if I could go to any single survival school it would probably be the one Cody runs in AZ.
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#269822 - 05/11/14 02:07 PM Re: Dave Canterbury getting new show [Re: kcatto]
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Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 1419
Loc: Nothern Ontario
Originally Posted By: kcatto
I just found this interesting dave founded his whole company and school on lies of his military credentials when he started wilderness outfitters archery in 2008.. read it in his own words from his original site...


Really? Does anyone still care about 2 year news (and posts?) This very same subject has been beaten to death on several forums and I do not get why...I would like to think that survival TV show fans have moved on past this subject and person. But I guess not...Seems like celebrity worship in a sense.
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