I just handled a Gibbs ( no relation to the famed british maker) survival rifle. These are reworked SMLE rifles cut down much like the jungle carbine ( but without the infamous wandering zero ) nickel plated ( except for sights) and available in either .303 or .308 bore. They even have a survival kit replacing the buttplate cleaning kit! Now we can have rifles, knives and axes with enough matches and fishhooks to bring a smile to Tom Hanks' face <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. I shot the .303, and it would be my pick. The 215 grain load is a famous canadian stopper of moose, bear and potential southern invaders intent on burning the parliament house again <img src="images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Personally, I would just find a clean 'smelly. ' There's enough wood on those things to start 3 signal fires and 10 rounds rapid fire is adequate for UFOs in the desert.