Thanks for your Observation and Thought.

I'm Not so Sure, however, that our Iraq Efforts have Truly Drained Resources from our Efforts in the Afghan Theatre. And even if to some Extent so, -It's perhaps Not to the Extent your Average "War Opposer" typically Thinks.

Having said that, -I Uncomfortably Think that we are All Too Often Operating on Too Much of a Shoestring.

As to New Terrorist / Enemy Hydra Heads forming, in Connection with our Iraq Efforts. -There may be some Material Truth to that, at the Moment.

But I Liken this to our WW-2 Efforts. We could Not Fight Only in the Pacific, -Only in Response to Pearl Harbor. The September 11th of Their Day. A Larger Enemy Axis Did then Exist, as it Exists Again Now. (However Less Formally). We Have to Fight and Be On Guard Multi-Front, Multi-Theatre, Globally. Saadamistic Iraq was and is a Major Part of that.

Further Theatres and Fronts are Often Neccessary in a Larger War and Picture. Additional "Hornets Nests" can get Stirred Up in the Process. That's Part of the Way a Larger Conflict, War, Struggle, or Task Often is. It was so in WW-2, and it is Similarly so Now. (Though in a Broad Sense, WW-2 was more of a Classic Military Operation, Whereas Today's One is more of an Irreagular, Guerilla, One) Still, the Same Broad Principle and Comparison Holds, that I'm Making.

ON THE IRAQI WMD TIE-INS HERE, -

WMDs being Overwhelmingly Not Yet Found there, -Does Not Automatically Mean that they Weren't there. Or that they Aren't Now Dangerously Somewhere. Evidence and Proof is Overwhelming that he Had them, and was Ardently Working on them! They've either been Hidden, Transferred and Transported, or Destroyed.

We of course Have some Very Dangerous Enemies in the World that these could Have been Transported To. (In Whole or in Part).

But Even to "Only" Destroy them, in the Last Few Years Prior to the recent Persian Gulf War # Two, -would be a Nice "Jank You in your Face!" Kind of Touch, -from saadam and Co. At U.S. It's Every Bit Like Him and his Kind!

If the World's Watching, and you Can't Exactly Continue Developing them in the Way you Once Did, -Then Throw some Unexpected Mud in their Face! By Doing so in *This* Sort of an "If you Can't Beat Them, -Join Them!", Sort of Way. To Them, it was "Fun" Developing them while the World was Very Much Not Watching, and was Letting Em Get Away with it. We Go and Shine the Spotlight though, and Keep Holding his Feet to the Fire, -and It's then No Longer "Fun and Stuff" to Do so! What then Becomes "Fun" for them, -is to Stick U.S. with an Apparent "They're Not Even There!" Anyone who Draws from this that "They Therefore were *Never* Even There", is Dangerously Mis-Informed.

I Have the Really Uncomfortable Feeling that these "Missing" Iraqi WMDs are Going to Someday Come Back to Haunt U.S.!

In Trapping, the Animal (Ideally) Only Knows that It is Trapped, -Once the Cage Door Slams Down Behind It! Too Late Then!, -to Finally Find Out!

We Too, may Someday so Learn, of the Fate of the "Missing" Iraqi WMD Weaponry!

They are in Great Liklihood Somewhere! Either Destroyed and/or Hidden Somewhere!

To now Go Soft on Iraq, just because we Havn't Yet Found them, -is Like that Enticed Animal being Soothingly Lulled into the Trap!

Someone or Someones in this World Knows the True Fate and Status of those "Missing" Iraqi WMDs! And Most Disturbingly and Chillingly, -Such People, -Whoever they Are, -Are *Not* on our Side!

If Not a Matter of their Having Been Destroyed, -Then They are Somewhere! Definitely Somewhere! It's Bad and Dangerous Enuff if they're yet Squirrelled Away somewhere in Iraq. Its Far More Concerning and Chagrinative, if Any Number of them have been Transported Anywhere Beyond Iraq's Borders!

To Some of our Real Enemies Out There! To of course Osama, Al Qaida and Co. To Others Cut Out of their Same General Piece of Cloth. To Even Others. What if They were Transferred to Red China, for Example?! Possibilities here are Not *Only* Limited to Al Qaida and Co, or their Likes. Of course Osama and Al Qaida are our Primemost Sworn Enemies in this World Today. We Certainly Don't Want to Chance those "Missing" Iraqi WMDs Working their Way over to Them, -Nor to Anyone Else. Nor Do we Want them just to Continue to Sit Hidden, somewhere in Iraq. So it Was and Is Neccessary to Have Militarily Moved on Once saadamistic Iraq, as Part of this Entire Larger Effort and Picture.

Yes, the Place is Now Crawling with Al Qaida and their Likes. They are certainly Proximate to any Hidden WMDs there. But this is Part of the "Neccessary Hornet's Nesting", that I Describe Elsewhere here. Which we Must over Time Wrestle Down, this with Good to Great Manpower and Resources to Back Us Up! This Does Not Change How it was Still Initially Neccessary, -to Make a Military Move on Iraq, as a Crucial Part of this Whole Larger Effort, and Picture.

Whether Iraq Bred and/or Not, Osama and Co. are Definitely Seeking and Working on WMDs Themselves! Whereever they can Source or Develop such from!

With Iraq being such a Fertile Breeding Ground for Such Things, -It IS such a Vital Theatre and Front, -in our All Round Fight for our Very Survival! That we Now Find Ourselves Engaged in.

Do we Really Want to just Trust, -that an *Un*Vanquished saadam Wouldn't Someday and Somehow, Give / Transfer These WMDs Over to Them?! He may Already Have Done So, -Before his Vanquishment.

As we Had to also Fight WW-2 in North Africa, Italy, Normandy / France, Over Berlin in Maximum Effort Bombing Missions, and Europe and Elsewhere in General.- -So we Too Must Now Take a Global, Long Range Survey, -of What "We Must Do"! -Beyond Only September 11th Per Se, and it's Afghan Response!

Iraq is Such a Part of This! It just Very Much All Round Is! We Gotta Get In at that Hornet's Nest!

And of course with Adequate and Sufficient Manpower and Resources! And of course also with Alertness, Resolve, and Unflagging Determination, Etc! We'll See How Well we either Remember or Forget our September 11th Experience, -Along with it's Lessons!

I Think there Could Be More Iraqi - Qaida Type Connections, than we'd Care to Entertain! This Even Before our Iraqi Involvement! This is NOT Something that we Can Afford to Just Kindly Trust On! In Abscence of Outright "Incontrovertable Proof"!

So our Iraq Efforts ARE Such a Part of this All!

GENERAL END OF THE IRAQI WMD SUBPORTION.

Now of course when you Get into a Hornet's Nest, -The Hornet's are Gonna be Stirred Up and Activated. Ruffly Similar Things Occurred in our NON Pacific Theaters of our WW-2 Task. But we Kept At It!, -as Back Then it was a Case where we Neccessarily Must. And we Thereby eventually Wrestled the Whole Thing Down! We Had a Rich Reservoir of Resources and Manpower to Draw Upon. We Did Not Entertain Trying to Do so on the Cheap. We Had and Held that Crucial Sci-Tech Lead!, -Exemplified in the Manhattan Project and in Many Other Areas! We *Didn't* "Dah!" or "Dorp" Around in That! In Retrospect, -We Couldn't Afford to Dilly or Dally Around There or Elsewhere, Anyway! So Good Thing we Didn't!

We Globally Got Into that Day's Hornet's Nests, and Neutralized Them Down! It Wasn't Easy, both in Itself, -and with Reference to the Previous 30s Lollygagging Around!, that we Did.

We Now Have our Own Postwar type of 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s!, type Lollygagging Around! We Still Do Much of the Same Type of Lollygagging Around, Here in the 2000s, even After Sept. 11th! Where within such Lollygagging, -We've just Let Many an Osama Type Pandora's Box out there, Grow, Thrive, and Fester!

And so Now we Really've Got our Work Cut Out for U.S.! And We've Got to Really Forget About Old Style Softyish Slipping and Dragging!, -and Work Like Dogs at This!

One of the First Things we Must Now Do, is to Get Off of various Superfluous, Silly Stuff! We Happen to be in a Life and Death Struggle and War! And Not Swimming in an Era of Peace and Well Being. In case Anyone's Forgotten or Hasn't Noticed. To Get Off the Silly Jackson type Stuff, Royal Family Antics, and So On. -And Onto the Very National Security and Survival Stuff! That we Must be About and Doing! Fully and Lastingly! Like Frank said in his Song, -"Not in a Shy Way"!

Like a Kid Doesn't Have to be Told How, Nor Coaxed to Play! Generally Speaking, our Publics at Large shud Live, Think, Eat, Sleep, and Breathe!, their Very National Safety, Security, and Survival! Until our Task and Job is Truly Successfully Done. This is the Spirit! That we Shud All be Having about Ourselves!

Our Task is Now Cut Out for U.S., and we've Now Got to Work like Dogs at It! In some Real Catch Up Ball! Catch Up from Behind! Thanks to Decades of various Dangerous Slipping, Dragging, and Lollygagging!

In this Same Way, Had we Built Up our B-17 Fleet in the *30s*, -as some Lonely but Wise Voices were Calling For!, -Then How Much Easier and Better would our Air Theater Tasks Have Been! When the Unavoidable Neccessity of that War, -Finally Came Around! Instead, we Alarmingly Began with some 30 or so B-17s, -Many Wiped Out on the Ground in those First Post Pearl Harbor Japanese Attacks on the Phillipines! We then Had to Really Work Like Dogs! Before we could have our Great Air Attacks upon places like Schweinfurt, Regensburg, Ploesti, the D-Day Normandy Front, the Bremerhaven U-Boat Pens, Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, and Berlin.

If there's a Lesson from History that we Don't Want to Have to Repeat, -It's to NOT Bring Ourselves Up so Dangerously Short! *Before* so Vital and Imperative a Task!

Like a Squirrel who Only Begins Belatedly Collecting Nuts, when the Cold of Fall and Winter Starts Coming On! When Summer Sun!, was the Time to Be On to That!

So Iraq is Indeed a Hornet's Nest. And More Hornets are being variously Stirred Up There!

(Personnel Doing such Abuses as have Lately been Done by Some, -Hurts and Doesn't Help. Thruout History, however, it's Been the General Rule, that Each Side is Fully Brutal to the Other as it Pleases, and it's a Matter of Who of the Two "Strongs Out", in the End. Nowadays, however, Higher Noble Morals, are being Used as a "Weapon", by Some. A Convenient and Selective Weapon. Still, our Abuses Done by Some is Wrong.)

We're just Gonna Have To, -WITH ENUFF MANPOWER and RESOURCES!, -Come to Wrestle this Thing Down! With Such Rich and Ready Resources to Draw Upon, -This CAN Eventually Be Done!

But We Have No Choice, -But to Stay our Course, in Iraq and Elsewhere! We Had No Choice to Go In to Begin With, -We Have No Choice About Departing Now! Our Well Strengthed, Goodly Positioned Enemies out there, -Give U.S. No Choice but to Fight, -in Any Event! So Let's just Be Fully Onto It!

The U.S., (Truly) Great Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, Our Great Cultural Heritage on the European Continent, South Korea, the Free Republic of China on Taiwan, the Pacific Greatness and Contributions of Japan, Our Great Fellow Latin American Neighbors to our South, and Others, -We're All in This Together! We've Ultimately Got a Really Great Team. With Such Great and Spandiferous Contributions that can be Made by such Members! Each in their Own Unique, Great Way! Even a Postage Stamp Sized Member such as the Vatican, -is a Towering Moral Force. We Each can Do So Much of the Grand Total on our Own. Think How Much More we can Jointly Do!, -Acting in Concert!, -Against Our Common Enemy and Foe! So Let's Be About It and Do So! We're Simply Gonna Have To in any Event, -I'm Afraid!

So We've Got to Do it with Enuff Long Term Determination and Oomph! Thats All there's so to It!

Some Additional Hornets will be Stirred Up in the Process. That Often Can't be Helped. But that's NO Reason, Call, or Excuse, -For Not Being Onto or At It!

As we also Had to Fight in Theaters *Other* than just the Pacific, -So Too Must we Fight and Stand Guard in Places *Other* than just Afganistan, -and *Other* than with Only Enemy Foes such as Al Qaida Alone! Iraq, both Pre and Post saadam, is Simply One of These!

What if Churchill were Again and Today among U.S.?! He'd of course be Urging U.S. to Stand and Fight!, in His Same Bulldog Spirit of Before! Let's be Similarly of his Spirit and Determination Now!

As to our Ideally Being our Republic, -the True Enemies at our Gates, -Do Laugh at U.S. for that, and Use that Against U.S.! We of course Still Should Remain a Genuine Democracy and Republic! But Keep the Earlier Part of this Paragraph in Mind too.

If it Comes Down to Mortal Enemies Out There, Who Will just Not Give Up in any Event, -Then we're Gonna Have to also be, -a Pax Romana. (Pax Americana / Freedomiana). And May we Be and Remain a Noble, Upper Spirited, Benevolent One, -in any such Neccessary Circumstance. As I'm Very Sure we Would. Though I Acknowledge that we Do Have to Watch the Actions of Some Loose Apples among U.S..

I'm Concerned about Areas of Too Much Arbitrary Governmental Power too! But on National Life or Death Survival Matters, -I Know Where to Place my Larger Priorities.

Now Let me Get Off of this Lengthy Enuf Piece, (In the Course of Addressing This here), and Back Onto Taking some of Bountyhunter's Suggested Advice.

When the Very Safety, Security, and Survival of our Country and Free System is at Stake, however, -I Feel that if it Takes More than Just a Few Words to Say some Crucially Important Things there, -Then it so Does.

This is One of America's and Freedom's Handicaps and Problems! This Often Undue Preoccupation with Brevity. Thats One of the Very Things I'm generally Talking About here. Which the West shud Start Seeing of Itself. Relative to our Task, and Relative to our Different Thinking Enemies.

Still, I Do Strive to Say Things in as Few, Brief, and Basic Words, as Possible. So now, (After Basically Surveying some More of our Site), -Let me be Back onto some Other Things.

I'm Going to Try to Go even More Sparingly in Posting here, -so that this Thread Doesn't Start Growing Too Long. New and Serious / Major Developments, as Surely Will a Come!, -May Present Something of a Challenge to That! As at Times it Already Has! [color:"black"] [/color] [email]Chris Kavanaugh[/email]