I never got to try them. One of the new crewmembers was this 5'10 greek goddess named Nikki who disliked firearms. Everybody else was walking around like Bogart inTreasure of the Sierra Madre' armed to the teeth with bowie knives, revolvers and ( our native monitor,) a compound bow. My carbine remained under the back seat, replaced with visions of Ouzo wine and stuffed grape leafs at the oasis of 29 Palms. <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />