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#248239 - 07/10/12 02:09 AM what is a good strong survival glove?
picard120 Offline
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what is a good strong survival glove?

The glove should have kevlar, resist knife cuts and has good grip?

Does anyone have any suggestion?

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#248240 - 07/10/12 02:53 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
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Survival glove?? Could you be a little more specific about the situations for which you are contemplating use of this glove? For many outdoor, non-tactical situations, I have often appreciated good leather work gloves. They provide protection from sharp edges and sticky things, as well as some shielding from cold. For significant cold, noting is as good as fleece or down mittens. I have never needed kevlar gloves, although I understand they are standard in packing houses and similar situations.

If at all possible, I prefer to toughen my hands to the point that gloves are not necessary, but I like to have a pair handy, just in case.
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#248243 - 07/10/12 04:29 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
Stephen Offline
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Originally Posted By: picard120
what is a good strong survival glove?

The glove should have kevlar, resist knife cuts and has good grip?

Does anyone have any suggestion?


What the heck is a "survival glove"?

If you are talking tactical then I would strongly reccomend Wileyx CAG -1 gloves. I have these and they have been absolutely perfect for tactical use. For non tactical situations I find the hardened knuckles are great for mountain biking where you tend to smash them on branches a lot. The flash resistant material makes them ideal for grabbing hot stove parts etc as they don't scorch easily, and yes they are cut/puncture resistant (seems important to you) I must admit, the Kevlar weave makes them very durable. Grip is second to none (in my experience at least)
I am sure there are lots of good brands out there, but these have served my well enough at work and play to get a couple of pairs.

The down side.... Try them on if you can before buying. As tactical gloves by design the fingers are very tight, they are designed for max movement/dexterity after all. And they are not cheap. Excellent gloves, but expect to pay 100 bucks or more a pair.

Now if you are looking for a general outdoor work glove for splitting wood and such, I agree any solid no name brand leather work glove should suffice.

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#248244 - 07/10/12 05:12 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: Stephen]
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Originally Posted By: Stephen
What the heck is a "survival glove"?
I was going to ask that too.

Quote:
If you are talking tactical then I would strongly reccomend...
But instead, I now have to ask, "What the heck is a tactical glove?" I guess they must just paint them black and call them tactical, like everything else these days.

I thought gloves were for either (1) Warmth, or (2) Protection. What is the "tactical" or "survival" use of a glove, other than warmth or protection?

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#248246 - 07/10/12 06:27 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: haertig]
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You are correct, gloves simply add warmth or protection(sometimes both)But.....believe it or not some folks out there need something more specific than that. A Tactical glove would be a glove designed specifically for military or police use and in this particular case they are designed to meet certain specific criteria based on that intended use.
-Slim fingers for better weapons handling.
-Kevlar weave for personal searches where someone may have sharp, stabbing objects on their person.
-A higher flash resistance for flash burn protection from explosions(IEDs being the big one)
-Extra protection to the knuckles.
And yes, if you wear a black uniform you can ever find them in the same color without resorting to painting them.
-The CAG 1 is not designed to keep your hands warm either. Thought I should add that.

Yes , tactical may be a term often thrown around at each and every corner to increase sales, but I am very certain everyone here happened across the term "tactical glove" once or twice and could draw the conclusion they are not your everyday run of the mill gloves but are designed to fit a more specific role.

Oh! BTW, You should tell the next Police officer you see in SWAT gear that you think he simply paints his gloves black for the sake of cool guy points. You may learn first hand (no pun intended) why they have hard plastic knuckles. laugh

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#248248 - 07/10/12 08:03 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
LED Offline
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Generic deer skin gloves work well for grabbing hot pots and managing a campfire. I also use the cheap craftsman work gloves from home depot for things that require more dexterity like sawing, etc. They're not totally necessary, they just make life a lot easier.

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#248256 - 07/10/12 02:23 PM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
Lono Offline
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No idea what a survival glove is, but I like these for operating my chainsaw in cold and wet weather:

http://countycomm.com/gloves.html

You can also get cheaper knockoffs in a 6 pack at Costco, but those don't wear as well as the ones I got at CountyComm, 4 years and still going strong. Thin, great grip, great dexterity - all worthy of the survival moniker when working with a running chainsaw, where the object of the game is to not slice open a leg artery (for which I wear kevlar chaps, naturally).

Otherwise I use inexpensive garden leather gloves for moving debris in my emergency kits, backed by slightly more expensive leather gloves for when those wear out. The leather gloves have enough room to wear surgical gloves underneath in the event we're doing S&R and come upon a victim. I ran through a pair of the leather gloves yesterday in one session of moving deck wood from the front yard to the back, a split opened up on the back side of one hand, so I wouldn't expect to get more than a day or two of moving debris from them. so pack at least two.

In cold weather when shoveling snow for shelters I wear dishwasher gloves - actually they are neoprene gloves from Home Depot sold in the tile section of the store, a bit heftier and less prone to rips - instead of cold weather insulated gloves. I can fit a pair of the CountyComm gloves underneath if I want some insulation, and in the end I wear warm and dry insulated gloves when we're all done or when I just want to reduce the cold from shoveling. If you're building a snow shelter in anything else, expect to pack 2-3 pair of insulated gloves as they will get plenty wet and lose their effectiveness.

I suppose that given the variety of glove solutions I use for 'survival', the point would be there is no one-all be-all survival glove, just the pair that works for the work at the moment.

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#248257 - 07/10/12 02:29 PM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
Lono Offline
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Oh yeah - the influence of TV too: I was watching Deadliest Catch a few years back and noticed most of the crew were wearing Atlas gloves, which are inexpensive and commonly available, at least around Seattle. They are generally tough and come in a variety of types for different uses, like handling lines, hauling pots, and other hard work. The blue line seemed to work best. I bought a few pairs at a Seattle fishing supply store and put them in a kit, but frankly haven't used them. It may be worth another look or at least buying a pair to see if they fit your idea of a disaster glove.

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#248290 - 07/10/12 09:38 PM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
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For grunt work around the yard/camp, then generic leather work gloves. While in the service (before tactical gloves existed), I liked the leather/Nomex flight gloves. They offered BASIC protection while allowing good dexterity, etc. I have both types now plus winter gloves (and wool inserts for the work gloves).
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#248299 - 07/11/12 01:03 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: Finn]
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I keep a pair of leather/Nomex flight gloves in my truck console with one of those Spyderco rescue knives. The gloves are good to buy time while cutting thing near a fire. But they are relatively thin and won't buy you a lot of time. I keep another pair in my flight bag.
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#248302 - 07/11/12 02:26 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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what is a good strong survival glove?


A variety of gloves to suit various jobs would be required. For knife and Axe for bush crafting use, I use a pair of British Army combat hot weather gloves. These are mainly to reduce friction burns and blisters and they give a good supple feel. They are nice and cheap as well.

http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/index.php?method=stock&id=5020&from=58

They can also be used in cooler weather when combined with a lightweight Merino wool Liner glove from EDZ.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EDZ-Merino-Base-...0479&sr=8-2

For cold wet weather gloves I would use the Genuine issue British Army S95 gloves (if you can still get them), which are Goretex lined Leather gloves. These are very smart, functional and were reportedly very expensive to manufacture when they were originally made compared to the surplus cost.

Outdoor Designs do some nice Mountaineering mittens.

As for Kevlar, these are mainly for very specific needs such as working with glass etc. If a high degree of cut resistance is required stainless steel mesh gloves might be required.

MMA welding gloves, boxing gloves and Antarctic Mitts become quite difficult to use if you need to zip up a jacket or tie boot laces for example.

Also remember to tie some string/paracord to each end of the gloves and run them through your jacket sleeves like your mum used to do. Losing a glove in very cold weather can be become a survival issue.

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#248303 - 07/11/12 02:55 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: Lono]
picard120 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/05
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Originally Posted By: Lono
No idea what a survival glove is, but I like these for operating my chainsaw in cold and wet weather:

http://countycomm.com/gloves.html

You can also get cheaper knockoffs in a 6 pack at Costco, but those don't wear as well as the ones I got at CountyComm, 4 years and still going strong. Thin, great grip, great dexterity - all worthy of the survival moniker when working with a running chainsaw, where the object of the game is to not slice open a leg artery (for which I wear kevlar chaps, naturally).

Otherwise I use inexpensive garden leather gloves for moving debris in my emergency kits, backed by slightly more expensive leather gloves for when those wear out. The leather gloves have enough room to wear surgical gloves underneath in the event we're doing S&R and come upon a victim. I ran through a pair of the leather gloves yesterday in one session of moving deck wood from the front yard to the back, a split opened up on the back side of one hand, so I wouldn't expect to get more than a day or two of moving debris from them. so pack at least two.

In cold weather when shoveling snow for shelters I wear dishwasher gloves - actually they are neoprene gloves from Home Depot sold in the tile section of the store, a bit heftier and less prone to rips - instead of cold weather insulated gloves. I can fit a pair of the CountyComm gloves underneath if I want some insulation, and in the end I wear warm and dry insulated gloves when we're all done or when I just want to reduce the cold from shoveling. If you're building a snow shelter in anything else, expect to pack 2-3 pair of insulated gloves as they will get plenty wet and lose their effectiveness.

I suppose that given the variety of glove solutions I use for 'survival', the point would be there is no one-all be-all survival glove, just the pair that works for the work at the moment.


thanks for the link

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#248304 - 07/11/12 02:56 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
picard120 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor
Quote:
what is a good strong survival glove?


A variety of gloves to suit various jobs would be required. For knife and Axe for bush crafting use, I use a pair of British Army combat hot weather gloves. These are mainly to reduce friction burns and blisters and they give a good supple feel. They are nice and cheap as well.

http://www.strikeforcesupplies.co.uk/index.php?method=stock&id=5020&from=58

They can also be used in cooler weather when combined with a lightweight Merino wool Liner glove from EDZ.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EDZ-Merino-Base-...0479&sr=8-2

For cold wet weather gloves I would use the Genuine issue British Army S95 gloves (if you can still get them), which are Goretex lined Leather gloves. These are very smart, functional and were reportedly very expensive to manufacture when they were originally made compared to the surplus cost.

Outdoor Designs do some nice Mountaineering mittens.

As for Kevlar, these are mainly for very specific needs such as working with glass etc. If a high degree of cut resistance is required stainless steel mesh gloves might be required.

MMA welding gloves, boxing gloves and Antarctic Mitts become quite difficult to use if you need to zip up a jacket or tie boot laces for example.

Also remember to tie some string/paracord to each end of the gloves and run them through your jacket sleeves like your mum used to do. Losing a glove in very cold weather can be become a survival issue.






thank you for the link. I will check it out.

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#248363 - 07/12/12 01:09 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
MDinana Offline
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I'm pretty sure the CountyComm gloves can be found at Home Depot or Lowe's. They're OK for holding wet things, but the ones I've used were NOT conducive for hard labor.

If you run to a surplus store, the old black leather gloves do pretty well. Like the UK gloves, they have a liner (that works pretty well solo too).

These are what I'm talking about (first hit on Google I found):
http://www.galaxyarmynavy.com/item-3383.asp

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#248365 - 07/12/12 01:47 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
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Premium Grain Precurved Cowhide Leather Gloves $27.99 with Free shipping from Amazon. I have these gloves and use them routinely -- otherwise, no affiliation.
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#248384 - 07/12/12 04:11 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
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So, I haven't read through every reply but here are the three gloves that I use on a regular basis for "survival" work.

First, and probably my favorite are Petzl Cordex rappel gloves. These are extremely durable, comfortable and lighter weight/more breathable than full leather gloves. They are slightly expensive ($35-40/pair) and the nylon back can melt. With the exception of the 100% leather work gloves I use at work, these are the gloves I use the most.

Next are Mechanix Fastfit gloves. I always have a pair of these in my truck and have a couple different pair elsewhere. There are my first choice gloves for working on my truck, etc. They are lighter and cheaper than the Petzl. These gloves also are more comfortable when working in wet conditions and can be put away wet without issue.

Lastly, I have used Nomex flight gloves for years for survival type work. The biggest benefit to these gloves is the amazing dexterity these gloves offer if you have the correct size. Fire/flash resistance is an added benefit. These gloves offer enough protection for most survival task, but they aren't really work gloves. Recently, I have started to use OR Flashpoint gloves to replace my flight gloves... they are awesome but expensive.


Edited by Alan_Romania (07/12/12 04:42 AM)
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#248388 - 07/12/12 04:24 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: Alan_Romania]
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I like mechanix gloves, But wow they wear out so fast. The seam around the finger tips wears through in days sometimes.

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#248403 - 07/12/12 12:26 PM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: Stephen]
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Originally Posted By: Stephen
I like mechanix gloves, But wow they wear out so fast. The seam around the finger tips wears through in days sometimes.


Add a coat of Shoe Goo to the wear spots, while wearing the glove to obtain a custom fit. Do it before it wears all the way through to avoid gluing it to your hand. BTDT.
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#248418 - 07/12/12 03:52 PM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
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+1 Alan. All three of those are my in my top 5
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#248434 - 07/12/12 06:52 PM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: nursemike]
Stephen Offline
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Originally Posted By: nursemike


Add a coat of Shoe Goo to the wear spots, while wearing the glove to obtain a custom fit. Do it before it wears all the way through to avoid gluing it to your hand. BTDT.


That's sounds like a very good tip Mike, thank you. I will have to try it out.

I have been wrapping the fingers in duct tape to squeeze a bit more use out of each pair.

Gets to be a pain.

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#248470 - 07/13/12 01:16 AM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: Stephen]
Alan_Romania Offline

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I have yet to have a pair of Mechanix wear out quickly, or rip at the seem. I have a pair of Fastfit that I use at work that have been going strong for over a year.


Edited by Alan_Romania (07/13/12 01:18 AM)
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#248738 - 07/18/12 01:46 PM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: Russ]
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The Nomex gloves are a great option.

For hunting and in the field I like deer skin gloves. I buy factory seconds from a local manufacturer. Check out their web site at http://www.sullivanglove.com.

For around camp I like goat skin.

Blake

www.outdoorquest.blogspot.com

www.outdoorquest.biz

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#248753 - 07/18/12 05:39 PM Re: what is a good strong survival glove? [Re: picard120]
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I usually have two pairs of gloves, in cold winter maybe three. I have Nomex flight gloves, which is what gets used 90% of the time, a good heavy pair of repelling gloves for heavy work and picking up very hot things and in the winter a good warm glove or mitten with changeable inserts. The flight gloves do get the most use. I picked those because that is what I had from my previous life, and they work. I have other types of gloves, and generally will not go out without a good stout pair of leather gloves. A hand injury can become pretty serious if in a remote area, so protection is important.

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