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#247298 - 06/21/12 01:15 PM Wax and cotton homemade fire starters
gonewiththewind Offline
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Just a bit different way to make them:

JERMM's Outside

It looks like it will ignite from a spark if you tear them.

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#247342 - 06/22/12 02:18 PM Re: Wax and cotton homemade fire starters [Re: gonewiththewind]
Mark_F Offline
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These look very promising. I have recently experienced the often mentioned problem of wax candles melting in a survival kit (in one instance it gummed up a mini lighter so bad it wouldn't ignite - glad THAT didn't happen in a REAL survival situation) which has me re-thinking including anything with wax in a survival kit. Any idea if these will have similar problems? It appears that simply putting these in a zip loc type baggy will alleviate the problem of the wax getting on the rest of your stuff, but I am also wondering if the melting will diminish the use of these as fire starters?
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#247357 - 06/22/12 06:58 PM Re: Wax and cotton homemade fire starters [Re: gonewiththewind]
ireckon Offline
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At the end of the article, he says there are lighter options. I'm curious. What other options are lighter with this long of a burn time???
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#247358 - 06/22/12 07:56 PM Re: Wax and cotton homemade fire starters [Re: gonewiththewind]
Glock-A-Roo Offline
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My daughter made some of those very things for me recently. We used them as I taught her how to build a fire. They worked well. You have to tear them to expose fibers, which you then light. We used a Bic so I'm not entirely sure they would light easily with a firesteel. I suspect the long, juicy fibers of a PJ cotton ball would light easier with a firesteel than the wafers.

In the JERRM's article they timed the wafers at 4.5 minutes. My homemade PJ cotton balls burn about the same amount and are easier to make. I do think the volume of material (and weight) is about the same between the wafers and the PJ balls.

The only advantages I see to the wafers is if you want something that packs flat and doesn't make a mess on everything it touches.

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#247360 - 06/22/12 08:19 PM Re: Wax and cotton homemade fire starters [Re: Glock-A-Roo]
Stephen Offline
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Registered: 04/09/12
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Loc: Canada
Takes about 30 seconds to squeeze a blob of vasoline into a sandwich bag with a dozen or so cotton balls and squish it all together.

Less time wasted for the sake of trying to hang on to 25 cents worth of old candle stubs. Still a good idea for a a rainey day maybe.

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#247383 - 06/23/12 03:58 PM Re: Wax and cotton homemade fire starters [Re: gonewiththewind]
JerryFountain Offline
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Loc: St. Petersburg, Florida
I have carried something similar (4 inch square of t shirt material soaked in wax) for 40 or so years. I think these may be better for lighting with a steel. I have tried mine with a fire steel, which did not work till I put a pile of magnesium shavings or other tinder on it. Since I always use a match, that matters little for normal use and is only somewhat less speedy for survival use.

They pack flat in a zip lock bag, are not messy and work well. I will have to try the pads.

Respectfully,

Jerry

p.s. They seem to be easier to use than PJ cotton balls in extremely cold weather.


Edited by JerryFountain (06/23/12 04:01 PM)
Edit Reason: add p.s.

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#247394 - 06/24/12 03:05 AM Re: Wax and cotton homemade fire starters [Re: ireckon]
Snake_Doctor
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Large and too bulky for my taste. I'm happy with my tinder cubes. About the size of a sugar cube (which I can't seem to find anywhere anymore) and burn about 12 minutes. Still working a few kinks out of them.

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