#246220 - 05/23/12 04:23 PM
Poison Ivy
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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So, I got my first case of poison ivy or oak or hogweed or something on our hike this weekend. Not sure how it happened though. We were careful to wear long pants and stay on the trail. It's only my top left shin and it's REALLY itchy. The trail was mostly like this: But it's starting to get a little crowded in some spots. Not as bad as it was in this pic from last summer but on most of the scrub was at least waist high: I've got anti-hystamines and calamine lotion at home but what would you use in the field? I'm thinking that both would work well but carrying a bottle of calamine lotion in my pack just doesn't seem right. I thought a tube of Gold Bond cream might work better. Any suggestions about how to avoid something like this or how to treat it??
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#246223 - 05/23/12 05:01 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Registered: 03/29/12
Posts: 189
Loc: California
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You can get single use packets of Hydrocortisone cream. This site also has lots of other travel size items from food to games. REI also carries single use size first aid items.
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#246224 - 05/23/12 05:41 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/09/02
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Loc: Frederick, Maryland
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See if you can find Tecnu at the drug or outdoor store. It is great for removing the oils. Even if you already have the rash, Tecnu can help prevent it from spreading. If you got the oils on other items (boots, pants, etc.) you can use it to remove the oils and prevent re-exposure. Tecnu Pete
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#246226 - 05/23/12 06:37 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: paramedicpete]
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Old Hand
Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
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I ran across this a few weeks ago.
Edited by ILBob (05/23/12 06:39 PM)
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#246229 - 05/23/12 06:56 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Snake_Doctor
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I carry anti-itch cream from the dollar store. Works well for me.
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#246236 - 05/23/12 07:50 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
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Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
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In my fanny pack, I carry generic antihistimine capsules in my minimal FAK along with some anti-itch stuff I found at Walmart in the clearance section. Have not had the occassion to try any on a poison ivy rash yet. Its the last picture in this post. http://ilbob.blogspot.com/2012/03/walmart-shopping-trip-today.html
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#246248 - 05/23/12 11:34 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Loc: ventura county, ca
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Any suggestions about how to avoid something like this or how to treat it?? here on the left coast we have poison oak. first is a physical barrier - long pants, long sleeves, gloves. second might be this product: IvyX. post exposure: what pete said above - you gotta get the oils off. for me, i use benadryl creme ( comes in large tubes or in stick form for travel ) under a bandaid ( helps keep my fingers off the itch and also stops the spreading. ) the last little bit i had on the back of my left hand took two weeks to go away - but little to no itch. maybe a mix of your favorite steroid cream with a bit of benadryl creme might work.
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#246255 - 05/24/12 03:17 AM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Newbie
Registered: 03/14/12
Posts: 27
Loc: Upstate NY, USA
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I've had Poison Ivy, Poison Oak and Poison Sumac so many times I end up going to the Doctor's office for steroid shots and tablets as well as special cream. Last time I got it it was down my entire left side at its peak. Not fun and the OTC stuff doesn't work anymore. Granted, I had never seen Tecnu before so it might work, but I'd rather not find out. When we go hiking next time, I'm going to try the IvyX bsmith suggested.
-Jason
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#246258 - 05/24/12 03:47 AM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Old Hand
Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 778
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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Here on the left coast we have Poison Ivy too,along with Poison Oak.Usually growing right beside these 2 rotten devils,one can often find Jewelweed,of which works Real Well (& Free!) at Detoxifying the Urushiol,the poison in poison Ivy/Oak!The Jewelweed flowers(Orange colored) seem to be the most potent part,to be rubbed onto the affected area's,this stuff will stain your skin bright orange,but it works Very Well!There are pure extracts of jewelweed that can be found at health food stores,& Probably online too,Definitely worth looking into!I personally have not been affected by Poison Ivy/Oak(Knock on wood),but I have friends that seem to get it from just being in the vicinity of such.Good Luck!
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#246265 - 05/24/12 12:02 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Old Hand
Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 745
Loc: NC
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Milk of Magnesia, apply to the itchy spots.
I used to get poison ivy so bad it would spread to my entire body. As I got older this went away, but poison oak kicks my butt.
Tried tons of stuff. The best was called Ivy Dry, but I don't think they make it anymore. Tried MoM at a friend's suggestion, works well.
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#246267 - 05/24/12 02:17 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Veteran
Registered: 02/20/09
Posts: 1372
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Hate that stuff. I'm like JBmat ... once I get it on one place, it spreads over my entire body. it seems to be carried by some sort of oil that goes with the plant - it doesn't easily just wash off with soap and water. i have not tried Ivy Dry. Basic Calamine lotion wasn't all that helpful, as I recall.
Pete2
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#246271 - 05/24/12 04:32 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Stranger
Registered: 04/07/12
Posts: 14
Loc: USA
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It is an over-reaction by your immune system to the oils in the plant.
The healthier your immune system, the worse your reaction can be.
I carry a small bar of soap wherever I go. If I accidently find myself in a poison ivy patch, as quickly as possible I wash my exposed skin where it may have touched the plants. This often nips the reaction in the bud, or at least lessens its severity.
If you can also wash or change your clothing, that helps too.
Remember that the oils of the plant can transfer from your hands and body and clothing to anything else it touches. Then you pick up, say, your axe and the axe handle has oil from when you handled it a couple days before, you can get another rash.
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#246273 - 05/24/12 04:47 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
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Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 1428
Loc: NJ, USA
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I remember, as a little kid, I was walking around one of my father's job sites with him and asked him, "what's this?" as I preceded to grab a hairy vine of poison ivy hanging off the side of a tree. My father scooped me up, ran me over to his work truck, poured gasoline all over my hands, and then wiped them off with a rag. Apparently it worked, because I never got poison ivy. I did get to learn what it is though. (Another funny memory from that day is my father having to explain to my mother why I smelt like gasoline when she came to pick me up.)
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#246277 - 05/24/12 09:56 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: Paul810]
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Sheriff
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3842
Loc: USA
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(Another funny memory from that day is my father having to explain to my mother why I smelt like gasoline when she came to pick me up.) ROFL
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#246280 - 05/24/12 11:44 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: Richlacal]
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1474
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I've heard Mugwort works for countering poison oak but never tried it.
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#247475 - 06/25/12 09:04 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 776
Loc: The People's Republic of IL
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Tecnu works well for my wife. Our dogs seem to pick up Poison Ivy oils by running through our forest. My wife has given up petting them. She has a really fierce reaction to poison ivy. I recently ordered the following Jewelweed salve to test http://www.localharvest.org/jewelweed-salve-poison-ivy-relief-lg-5-oz-jar-C10968
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#247485 - 06/25/12 10:14 PM
Re: Poison Ivy
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Old Hand
Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 870
Loc: wellington, fl
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My FAKs always have a topical anti-itch cream, like Cortaid. That's my top choice. Calamine relieves the itch but doesn't, in my experience, work as well, as well as being bulkier to carry, so I don't carry it. An anti-sting med like a bee sting swab is a good next choice for temporary relief. Last is Neosporin plus pain, it works better than nothing and I always have some, but it's not great for this. good advice. calamine is the 19th century approach, using a clay base to absorb the oils which cause the rash. These oils are present in the exudate from he blisters that form, so contact with the exudate will cause further blistering. The active ingredient is the oil, and removing the oil is best accomplished with soap or dish detergent and water, lots of both; other non=polar solvents-gasoline, alcohols, wd-40 might work but have some inherent hazards of their own. Nasty stuff. Topical and systemic steroids, and antihistamines are the state of the art in treatment.
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