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#244889 - 04/13/12 07:53 PM Re: How Much White Gas Do I Need? [Re: Roarmeister]
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Originally Posted By: Roarmeister
Rules of thumb can be used. I still think a XX oz./person/day rule is as good as any. If one uses 2 oz/day for one person to 1.75 oz/person/day for a group of 4-5 and 1.5 oz/person/day for larger groups is a good a starting point as any. Then factor in personal habits of whether people have a late coffee/tea, whether they have a hot or cold breakfast, the season (cold weather camping may require snow melting), use of boiling to sterilize water, what type of dish washing is done and whether the group chooses to abstain on cooking on the last day.

You could calculate a similar number when using other types of fuel like alcohol or cannister stoves.
Good points all.

In terms of personal habits, I should mention I usually do the dishes with cold water. Not always (ever try to clean up chili with cold water?), but if I can I'll save the fuel and use cold water.

My 1.5 fl oz/day for one and 2.25 fl oz/day for two is again more of a starting point, a starting point that needs to be adjusted for conditions, style, stove, etc. To me, my numbers are conservative, but YMMV. Still, I figure it's better to have some idea of what you'll need. There's not much out there as I search the web in terms of easily used fuel planning numbers.

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#244893 - 04/13/12 10:22 PM Re: How Much White Gas Do I Need? [Re: ponder]
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I can get none to admit that they have had any problems with their stoves. I have read all of Colemans warnings (Marketing ?) and the other fuel manufacturers.


For bug in/vehicle bug out, Coleman Dual Fuel with trangia alcohol back-up. The link is to the current model.

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#245012 - 04/18/12 07:43 PM Re: How Much White Gas Do I Need? [Re: UTAlumnus]
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Originally Posted By: UTAlumnus
For bug in/vehicle bug out, Coleman Dual Fuel with trangia alcohol back-up. The link is to the current model.
I think a Coleman 533 like the one you linked to makes a lot of sense for a vehicle (or bugging in). A bit much to carry though.

I'd run it on white gas wherever possible and save unleaded for emergencies only. Yes, I know it says "dual fuel," but unleaded will degrade a stove no matter what it says on the box.

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#245020 - 04/18/12 10:22 PM Re: How Much White Gas Do I Need? [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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A bit much to carry though.


+1. For carry it'll be either the Trangia, similar home built, or a wood burning can stove.

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#245064 - 04/19/12 03:11 PM Re: How Much White Gas Do I Need? [Re: UTAlumnus]
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Got photos? smile

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#245092 - 04/20/12 02:00 AM Re: How Much White Gas Do I Need? [Re: UTAlumnus]
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Stock Mini Trangia kit w/ .8L pot, teflon skillet/lid, windshield, & simmer ring. I haven't tried building one yet. The wood burner would be a field expedient McGyver.

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#245104 - 04/20/12 04:09 AM Re: How Much White Gas Do I Need? [Re: UTAlumnus]
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The Mini Trangia is my go to solo cook kit these days. It also works well with a Pocket Rocket. Ditch the windshield and rig heavy duty aluminum foil for a windscreen and you can cook up a storm. A very good value for the money. I have two Mini's- the earlier non stick pan version lives in my vehicle as part of the emergency kit there.
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#245108 - 04/20/12 04:33 AM Re: How Much White Gas Do I Need? [Re: hikermor]
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I was thinking it added a lot of weight & could be replaced w/ a couple pieces of coat hanger for a pot support and foil.

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