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#242732 - 03/08/12 09:10 PM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: Glock-A-Roo]
Eugene Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
Originally Posted By: Glock-A-Roo
1) how do you get around the keyloggers that are on your work computers? Most larger companies log all computer input, not just web history. Makes things much easier on the HR department for both personnel and corporate espionage issues.

2) don't Google and Apple store all their customers' smartphone data on company servers? Don't they claim access to everything that goes thru your phone?


Not quite. The amount of key presses would cost too much to store that much data for a key logger. they monitor web sites and may have some pattern detection programs .

At least google only stores what data your phone sync's with them, calendar, gmail, etc. You can store data on the sd card or use other e-mail programs that they don't access or store.

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#243018 - 03/12/12 10:35 PM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: Glock-A-Roo]
desolation Offline
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Registered: 01/21/10
Posts: 60
Loc: Sonoma County, CA
Originally Posted By: Glock-A-Roo
1) how do you get around the keyloggers that are on your work computers?


KeyPass allows copy/past of user/pwd to avoid this as well as trojans you might have on your personal computer. They'd see your payment amount/date, but not the password.

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#243060 - 03/13/12 02:59 PM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: desolation]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3842
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: desolation
KeyPass allows copy/past of user/pwd to avoid this as well as trojans you might have on your personal computer. They'd see your payment amount/date, but not the password.


Primitive keystroke loggers cannot read the paste buffer. Modern malware generally can.

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#243204 - 03/15/12 09:02 PM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: chaosmagnet]
desolation Offline
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Registered: 01/21/10
Posts: 60
Loc: Sonoma County, CA
Originally Posted By: chaosmagnet
Originally Posted By: desolation
KeyPass allows copy/past of user/pwd to avoid this as well as trojans you might have on your personal computer. They'd see your payment amount/date, but not the password.


Primitive keystroke loggers cannot read the paste buffer. Modern malware generally can.


Well there you go. My advice is generally worth just what you paid for it! blush

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#243206 - 03/15/12 09:43 PM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: haertig]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
Originally Posted By: haertig
Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
How do you carry around all those passwords/ pin numbers securely?
Writing it on a post-it in my wallet seems like a really bad idea...

Do you really have that many that need to carry them around with you? If you do, sure, get some electronic app/gadget that stores them all encrypted and accessible via a master password (which you will have to remember). This can be on a SmartPhone, on a thumbdrive, etc. depending on your needs. But consider first, do you really need that many when you're mobile that you can't just memorize them?

Absolutely, in my job.
One password for the computer. One for my Electronic Medical Record (actually 2 programs). 1 for my TSP account, 1 for my DFAS account (both military payment systems). My 2 bank accounts. My online access to EMR (of course, different password required!). There's 2 programs we use for continuing education that have different user ID's and passwords.

I've counted up to 13 passwords I typically need to access. Most of the work-related ones won't have the same log in requirements and need to be changed every few months. My solution is a freaking notepad.


Edited by MDinana (03/15/12 09:43 PM)

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#243215 - 03/16/12 01:39 AM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: TeacherRO]
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
13 is pretty low. I have three banks I have accounts at, so three accounts and passwords for me, then one for my wife (I download and store her retirement statements for her so I have to use her account), then two more user accounts and passwords for the kids cd's at the third bank. There is 6.
7. Health insurance site
8. dental insurance site
10. optical insurance site
11. cable/internet/phone web site
12. power company web site
13. gas company web site
14. domain/e-mail hosting site
15. domain registration site
16. work computer sign on
17. work single sign on
18. Cell provider user/password.
19-123456789. all the web sites and forums like this smile

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#243219 - 03/16/12 03:47 AM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: Eugene]
ireckon Offline
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Registered: 04/01/10
Posts: 1629
Loc: Northern California
To the common passwords listed above, add about 50 more numbers for me to remember:

-All my combination padlocks belonging to me or family (especially my parents).

-Serial numbers and company phone numbers for various safes belonging to me or family.

-Passwords/phone codes for home security systems belonging to me or family.

-Wifi networks belonging to me, friends, or family

-Social security numbers and passport numbers of family members (especially my daughter)

-Credit card numbers for buying stuff online. (I often don't carry around my credit cards, but I always have my smart phone.)

-Frequent flyer numbers (high security is unnecessary, but still...)

-Member numbers of my professional licenses (high security is unnecessary, but still...)

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In my family, I'm the guy to call if they forgot how to access whatever it is they're trying to access. Over several years, I'd say I've received about 30 such calls. I can't just use a notepad. In my case, the notepad method would be boldly irresponsible.
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#243232 - 03/16/12 05:58 PM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: TeacherRO]
chaosmagnet Offline
Sheriff
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3842
Loc: USA
I have somewhere around 100 passwords that I need to know for my customers. That's why I use a password database app uses strong encryption and syncs with my PC.

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#243901 - 03/27/12 11:14 PM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: TeacherRO]
drahthaar Offline
Member

Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 111
For what it's worth, I keep all of my passwords on a piece of paper in my wallet in a format _something like_ the following:


Bank A 22174 55431 33101 24118 24566 jymcl
Bank B jncny 22411 !ljm* 308A1 23411 44389
Ins ID 33981 33231 SML)@ 30222 16720 79811
etc

By starting the password at a predetermined string and introducing blocks of characters that you ignore, you can conceal your password pretty effectively.

For example: password starts at second to last character in 5th block and goes in reverse order.

or you can do first 2 characters of each block, etc.

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#244468 - 04/04/12 11:50 PM Re: Carrying passwords... [Re: TeacherRO]
TeacherRO Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 2574
and in the cloud/ backed up (encrypted, of course) Anyone tried kneepass?

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