#244182 - 03/31/12 04:42 PM
Re: What do you plan to barter?
[Re: dweste]
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Let me suggest a slight change in focus: do you include barter goods in your set of preparedness gear? If so, what?
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#244184 - 03/31/12 05:18 PM
Re: What do you plan to barter?
[Re: dweste]
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Geezer in Chief
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Not particularly. It might be a little difficult to decide what would be good barter material in any given situation. What if every one stocks up on 22 ammo.....?
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#244192 - 03/31/12 08:06 PM
Re: What do you plan to barter?
[Re: hikermor]
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I think it's true that the skills (and they definitely are real skills) of a good many of those highly trained medical people is dependent upon the technology available in hospitals or treatment centers. That was not my point. These are bright people or they would not have graduated from medical or nursing school. They will adapt pretty quickly and on an individual basis could be pretty useful. But the thing is once their patients die off, there will be a huge glut of these kind of people available which will tend to make their value a lot lower than you might think at first glance, which was the point I was trying and appear to have failed to make.
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#244193 - 03/31/12 08:08 PM
Re: What do you plan to barter?
[Re: Paul810]
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On a somewhat interesting/historical note, this is what Lewis and Clark took on their expedition for trade (or presents) with Native Americans:
12 Dozen pocket mirrors
4,600 Sewing needles
144 Small scissors
10 Pounds (4.5 kilograms) of sewing thread
Silk ribbons
Ivory combs
Handkerchiefs
Yards of bright-colored cloth
130 Rolls of tobacco
Tomahawks that doubled as pipes
288 Knives
8 Brass kettles
Vermilion face paint
20 Pounds (9 kilograms) of assorted beads, mostly blue
5 Pounds (2 kilograms) of small, white, glass beads
288 Brass thimbles
Armbands
Ear trinkets Not all that bad of a list even for today, especially considering this was a list from 200 some years ago.
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#244204 - 03/31/12 10:09 PM
Re: What do you plan to barter?
[Re: ILBob]
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"once their patients die off"...I think I would agree that many of the initial victims will perish, but the drastically altered circumstances will be generating new patients, perhaps in very large numbers, due to degraded sanitation, environmental exposure, trauma from cleanup efforts, inadequate diet, psychological reaction to stress - you name it.
Have there been any historical instances of "surplus" medical personnel in disaster situations? I haven't heard of any, but I certainly haven't really considered the issue....
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#244206 - 04/01/12 01:15 AM
Re: What do you plan to barter?
[Re: dweste]
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Electrons. I've set up a solar panel system I can use to recharge people's batteries from AAA up to 12v car batteries. The best things about this is: 1. I'm using those panels to run my computers right now, saving me money. 2. As long as the panels remain intact I can keep trading energy from them, they won't run out of electrons. It's like being Ben Bernanke, I'll just be able to keep printing money!   Of course, there's also the whole wild edible and medicinal plant stuff. -Blast
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#244215 - 04/01/12 05:47 AM
Re: What do you plan to barter?
[Re: Blast]
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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People of whom have the knowledge to process Crude oil into Petrol,will also Flourish very well during Hard Times.The Chechens & Armenians,& many other ex-Soviet area's, have been doing "Bathtub" refining for a Longtime with Good results=Cheap gas!
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