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#241868 - 02/26/12 04:14 AM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: bsmith]
ireckon Offline
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Originally Posted By: bsmith
lighthound has black plastic breakaway connectors for use with paracord here.


I like that!
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#241900 - 02/26/12 05:34 PM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: bsmith]
NAro Offline
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My experience with those breakaway fittings has been unsatisfactory. They break away too easily. I had to put a very small drop of superglue in them: they still pull apart, but not by themselves.

The shrink tubing became the strongest part of my lanyard! Not what I'd intended.

Now I lay the ends of the paracord together and sew them together with 3-4 stiches of very light cotton thread. Haven't had them come apart on their own, and I have tested that they will break when they should.

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#241907 - 02/26/12 10:58 PM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: Arney]
Joseph13 Offline
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Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 88
Originally Posted By: Arney

Joe, just seeing if I understand what you're describing. It sounds like the split ring only keeps you safe if the item attached to the split ring is what gets pulled, not the lanyard itself. That is, does the main loop of the lanyard have a weak point in the arrangement you describe? It doesn't sound like it.

Edit: Re-reading it today, I realize that I was thinking of a loop you wear around your neck. But your example is more of a leash concept, I believe. So there's no loop that needs to give way.


The end for the "leash" type it has a break away on the belt loop end as well.

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#241952 - 02/27/12 08:09 PM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: ireckon]
MostlyHarmless Offline
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Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 982
Loc: Norway
Originally Posted By: ireckon
Connect loops with an O-ring. Attach extra O-rings for ready replacement.


Now THIS is an idea I can like! Thumbs up for simplicity and ease of adjustment: If you think it breaks too easily, just use thicker o-rings!

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#241956 - 02/27/12 09:49 PM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: MostlyHarmless]
clearwater Offline
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The glove hooks don't break, so are reusable.

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#241959 - 02/27/12 10:23 PM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: ireckon]
yee Offline
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Registered: 12/10/11
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irecon,

Great idea on the use of O-rings but I THINK your current implementation leaves the risk that BOTH ends of the line get caught since each end is hanging down with equipment. This leaves the remaining loop as a noose.

The O-ring needs to be away from the "stuff" that is being lanyarded and can be a weak point.

Conway Yee

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#241961 - 02/27/12 10:25 PM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: yee]
Arney Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: yee
The O-ring needs to be away from the "stuff" that is being lanyarded and can be a weak point.

Whichever method is used, that's a good point about the location of the breakaway spot.

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#241963 - 02/27/12 11:07 PM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: yee]
ireckon Offline
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Originally Posted By: yee
irecon,

Great idea on the use of O-rings but I THINK your current implementation leaves the risk that BOTH ends of the line get caught since each end is hanging down with equipment. This leaves the remaining loop as a noose.

The O-ring needs to be away from the "stuff" that is being lanyarded and can be a weak point.

Conway Yee


You, my friend, discovered the design flaw. I was wondering if someone would see it. I will post a pic of a solution.

However, I don't see why you think the O-ring needs to be away from the stuff that is being lanyard. In a previous design, I had the O-ring up near my neck. No good, that position is annoying and doesn't give me ready access to inspecting the O-ring.
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#241966 - 02/27/12 11:52 PM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: yee]
ireckon Offline
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#241968 - 02/28/12 12:02 AM Re: Is there a safe way to tie a paracord lanyard? [Re: ireckon]
yee Offline
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Registered: 12/10/11
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ireckon,

I'm afraid that the redesign has the same flaw. Someone or something can grab both ends of the line and you end up with a noose.

The best place for weak point is at the back of the lanyard where the wrist or neck sits (where it is highly unlikely that both ends can be grabbed, accidentally or deliberately).

If this is not comfortable, how about two-thirds of the way up on one side? Machinery and the like is not likely to grab things that far up.

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