The guy who designed these is very nice. I initially saw a picture of these on YouTube somewhere, and it had an eBay url to find one. I tried, and they were all sold out. Somewhere in all that I found a contact email for the designer (but I can't remember where). I emailed him and he got right back to me. He said they were just getting ready to go to productions on the stoves, and the models he was selling were the final prototypes (identicaly to what the production models would be). He said he had a few of the final prototypes that he used in demos for distributers he was trying to get onboard and he would sell me one of those prototypes. Which he did, promptly. The models they are selling off their website are identical to mine, so he wasn't kidding about the final prototype being the same as initial production model. He emailed me a few times asking how I liked the stove. Very nice guy.