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#240295 - 01/30/12 09:06 PM Re: Yet Another Rainier Rescue [Re: hikermor]
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I have had an opportunity to test non-mapping Garmins in fog, at least, on San Miguel Island where the west end research station gets its gray water from a spring about a mile and one half away. The water is carried on the backs of the researchers, usually after work hours, often in darkness and fog. There is no established trail, by intention. You can keep your bearings by orienting to the constantly NW blowing wind, which courses over relatively flat, featureless terrain.

I tried it once without either compass or GPS, and did pretty well, coming in about 150 off from the station, nearly missing it until someone opened a door, providing a homing beacon.

On another try I used a GPS, setting a waypoint and then following it back from the spring. It was realy amazing to see the station materialize out of the fog dead ahead when fifty yards distant. I soon got in the habit of setting a waypoint every time i left from a vehicle when on the islands.

I have no experience using a GPS in blowing snow and cold, but those factors roughly triple the difficulty of doing anything. I'll bet using a GPS would be very tricky....
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#240297 - 01/30/12 09:35 PM Re: Yet Another Rainier Rescue [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor

I have no experience using a GPS in blowing snow and cold, but those factors roughly triple the difficulty of doing anything. I'll bet using a GPS would be very tricky....


I did have a little test run in pretty much as close as you can get to controlled circumstances when the weather turns bad above the three line: I've used my Magellan Meridian in a gale (beaufort force 7), somewhere between -5 to -10C, drifting snow and about 50 meters visibility. I have a custom made nylon GPS case that is clipped to my map case. The combined map case and GPS case is worn at my left side, with a strap over my right shoulder. This setup doesn't dangle or flap around. I can lift my GPS and push the buttons without removing my mittens. If I choose the menu with a big fat arrow on it I can check my course on the move - but anything more complicated than "a bit to the right/left" and I need to stop and think for a couple of seconds. When the wind blows that hard, thinking is actually quite hard. Communicating is even harder...

Having to stop every now and then is in itself dangerous. Your group may come apart very quickly, which is the big nr. 1 no-no. Frequent stops also cause irritation in others - they want to move, not stand still and start to freeze while you fiddle with your GPS thingy.

Even the best setup will fail when your googles start to ice. Hard to read the GPS when the googles are nothing but a greyish blur... I didn't experience that, but icing is just a matter of having the wrong set of circumstances. Again, a big fat arrow may just be visible through the blur. If not, you have to stop, turn your back to the wind and lift your googles to have a peek.

Traveling under such circumstances is doable, but requires training, discipline and alertness. Someone who doesn't pay attention for a few seconds may easily find that he has vandered off from the group while you fiddled with your GPS. Now your little trip has turned into a zero visibility search-and-rescue scenario.

The wise man will dig in and save the energy for better weather.


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#240299 - 01/30/12 09:46 PM Re: Yet Another Rainier Rescue [Re: hikermor]
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I wonder what the operating temperature limits is for the various Garmin receivers. Wearing a receiver on your arm under insulation would help, until you needed to see the display.
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