#238775 - 01/06/12 12:39 PM
Bag in a Bag
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 3601
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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One thing I have added to my kits is a small, packable backpack. I attach it if there is not room in the PSK container. My PSKs are so tightly packed that once you pull things out, it is tough to get it all back in. I use the Kiva Keychain backpack, and they come in various colors. My kids' PSKs have orange Kivas. The backpack also aids in collecting useful materials or foraging for edibles. I have recently acquired a Sea to Summit keychain back pack which is just as small packed as the Kiva, but holds a bit more and is more durable. I've been thinking of adding a bag to my kits for carrying gear, foraged edibles and firestarting materials, and perhaps water. I like Montenaro's suggestion of a packable backpack, and have also been eyeing a Maxpedition Rolly Polly bag. Any advice or suggestions?
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#238776 - 01/06/12 01:07 PM
Re: Bag in a Bag
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Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 1517
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The Rolly Polly bag is good, Sea to Summit makes a packable daypack that is very small. There are a larger number of "packable daypacks" out there now, but none as small as the Kiva, Rolly Polly or Sea to Summit. it depends on how much space you have to store it.
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#238779 - 01/06/12 02:28 PM
Re: Bag in a Bag
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Newbie
Registered: 04/25/08
Posts: 32
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Try the LL Bean Stowaway or Pocket Daypack. I have the older verison of the Stowaway and it's surprisingly tough. Eddie Bauer makes a similar one that folds into a self-contained pocket.
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#238781 - 01/06/12 03:06 PM
Re: Bag in a Bag
[Re: bacpacjac]
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Registered: 10/14/08
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I have a few of the L. L. Bean ones, and my kids carry them in their backpacks when camping to have a nice daypack to carry around instead of a full backpack. they don't pack down nearly as small as the Kiva or Sea to Summit, but are much more functional and durable. I have some Marmot and other varieties, they are nice, but do not pack nearly as small as the Kiva. If you are looking for pocket size EDC, the Kiva and Sea to Summit are the best I have found so far. OR makes one you can buy at Walmart for $5 or $6 that packs very small as well.
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#238783 - 01/06/12 04:11 PM
Re: Bag in a Bag
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Old Hand
Registered: 04/16/03
Posts: 1076
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I think this line of thought is smart and can prove quite useful. Back in the day, both Kelty and North Face made waist/fanny/lumbar packs that converted into daypacks. A zipped compartment contained the upper pack body and some flat shoulder straps. It was pretty cool but I don't think they're around anymore. In recent years Maxpedition made something similar called the Lochsa pack. It was bulky and heavy, like most Maxped products, and I think they discontinued it. As long as such a pack's weight/bulk fit your profile it could be a very versatile setup. It would be awesome to have one sewn up with modern materials. I found some photos of the Kelty item on a Japanese website: ![](http://image.rakuten.co.jp/zodiac/cabinet/kelty/img56064160.jpg)
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#238786 - 01/06/12 04:45 PM
Re: Bag in a Bag
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Geezer in Chief
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
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REI has the Flash 18 and the "Stuff Travel Pack" for about 30 bucks. For years I have used a Lowe Alpine Attack Summit (how's that for a hairy chested, macho name?) in a variety of ways, including carry on when flying and as a stuff sack that converts to a day pack for side trips when backpacking. A pack of this type is really versatile and handy in many ways.
One might be dubious about the comfort of the mesh straps featured by most packs of this type, but they are surprisingly comfortable, even when slightly overloaded.
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#238793 - 01/06/12 06:19 PM
Re: Bag in a Bag
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Veteran
Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1502
Loc: Mesa, AZ
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Like your thinking. I usually carry gallon and 2.5 gallon zip lock bags and a S2S waterproof bag but not a separate pack. Though I stash a drawstring bag in my front console. I suppose a tight compact bag might fit as well in my EDC backpack
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#238796 - 01/06/12 06:34 PM
Re: Bag in a Bag
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Old Hand
Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
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I like the look of that Kelty sling pack. For almost any hike of distance I also carry an Outdoor Research summit sack, http://www.outdoorresearch.com/en/or-gear/drycomp-summit-sack-chili-1size-us.html, waterproof, not bulky and light enough to go in another bag. I use it for shorter hikes where my full pack is extraneous, and filling with clothing etc when I want to make doubly sure they stay dry. I find it best for bulky but not heavy items, it doesn't have nearly as much padding or suspension support as a regular pack, but you can sling the summit sack over your other pack, or carry it for a while as a chest-carry sack - although that works best for shorter distances, not a whole hike: situations such as you're toting some gear for a hapless younger Scout who overpacked.
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