Guys, to echo chaosmagnet,

We can debate the issue of how nice to be quite endlessly.

At this point, let's change the focus of this thread to concentrate on what can be done to be prepared for winter driving, what kind of gear would have been helpful in this particular case, winter physiology, etc.

I think we've discussed the ground rules enough on this thread. I don't mean to overly limiting of debate, but I will delete any further posts not connected to pertinent winter/winter driving techniques, prep, gear, etc. Let us speak not ill of the dead nor of each other.

HJ
Deputy