#237228 - 12/11/11 08:17 PM
Re: gas can report
[Re: yee]
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Journeyman
Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 81
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Wow, you really hit one of my sore points. I have some older gas cans left but they are becoming unserviceable. The newer cans (I guess that is CARB-compliant?) are complete crap. I assume the intent is to prevent spillage, but every CARB can I have spills gas everywhere if used as designed. I've done as suggested by others here with improvised funnels, and usually pour from the new cans into the old as I use the gas to prevent cursing. One of my applications is to fill my motorcycles and that is a complete nightmare with gas splashing all over the tanks. Again, if the intent of CARB is to prevent spillage and emissions it has accomplished exactly the opposite.
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#237230 - 12/11/11 09:29 PM
Re: gas can report
[Re: yee]
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Member
Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 198
Loc: Scotland
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I think I have mentioned it here before but why not use outboard motor tanks? I have used the flexible bag like tanks with great effect.
As a bonus you can rig your generator to take its supply direct from the tank so no transfer necessary.
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#237236 - 12/11/11 11:05 PM
Re: gas can report
[Re: yee]
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Old Hand
Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 745
Loc: NC
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Try a surplus store to see if they have any GI issue fuel nozzles. I can't say what we called em, something about a donkey richard?
Anyhow, they fit a bunch of 5 gal cans, little leakage, can be turned upside down, drain fast. They are aluminum or stainless, least they didn't rust, and could be angled even tho they are metal. All mil vehicles had at least one onboard as standard equipment.
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#237237 - 12/11/11 11:18 PM
Re: gas can report
[Re: yee]
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Journeyman
Registered: 06/13/10
Posts: 56
Loc: New York State
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Do I understand correctly that you can get a nicely functional gas (or diesel) scepter can from a canadian store (because I live right on the border)? Like, one that actually pours the gas out?
If so, I'm going over the bridge next week. (Well, after Christmas maybe, all the Canadians are over here, buying turkeys, and clogging up the walmart, and the customs line when they go home).
Tim
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#237240 - 12/12/11 01:01 AM
Re: gas can report
[Re: TimDex]
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Member
Registered: 12/10/11
Posts: 169
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I purchased the CARB compliant Scepter gas cans due to the fact that more gas can be stored per square area of floor. The civilian cans have individual spouts (unlike the military counterpart) even though the civilian cans are less sturdy. However (AND HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART!!!), the NON-CARB compliant Scepter spouts that are still sold in Canada fits the CARB compliant Scepter cans well!!! http://www.homedepot.ca/product/gas-can-spout/907423The cap is the same. The only difference between the cap of the CARB compliant cap and the non-COMPLIANT cap has a cover of a different configuration to account for differences in the geometry of the CARB spout and it is of a different color!! The non-CARB spout will work with EITHER cover; the CARB spout is restricted to the cover that came with the can. http://www.homedepot.ca/product/gas-can-accessory-3-parts/907422Obviously, the vent cap on the accessory is worthless in the CARB-compliant can. When a CARB can is purchased, all that needs to be replaced is the spout itself and you are good to go. Conway Yee
Edited by yee (12/12/11 06:54 PM)
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#237260 - 12/12/11 02:44 PM
Re: gas can report
[Re: TimDex]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 309
Loc: north central west TX
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Do I understand correctly that you can get a nicely functional gas (or diesel) scepter can from a canadian store (because I live right on the border)? Like, one that actually pours the gas out?
If so, I'm going over the bridge next week. (Well, after Christmas maybe, all the Canadians are over here, buying turkeys, and clogging up the walmart, and the customs line when they go home).
Tim tim, this was the best that i can determine. info is slim. my attempts to find any scepter here in the usa has been fruitless, even calling stores listed on scepter's website as "usa retailers" in the states. but Conway Yee's spout info is incredibly helpful and kinda answers the question! thank you Yee!!!!! wahoo!!!!![/b] ===
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#237319 - 12/13/11 05:13 AM
Re: gas can report
[Re: yee]
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Stranger
Registered: 11/01/08
Posts: 18
Loc: San Francisco, CA, USA
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As a California resident, I have a tiny amount of responsibility for the CARB requirements; as much as any other liberal voter in the state. I used to really hate CARB compliant gas cans. Two things changed my mind: the CARB white paper on the requirements and Justrite 7250120 and 7250130 gas cans.The 120 can has a 5/8" nozzle and the 130 a 1" nozzle. These are the best gas cans I have ever owned or used. CARB or not-CARB. They are not cheap, $65 from Amazon, but they are well worth it for being long lasting and easy to use. Not to mention a small contribution to improving the quality of the air we all breathe.
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#237322 - 12/13/11 12:38 PM
Re: gas can report
[Re: Grahund]
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Geezer in Chief
Geezer
Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
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Thanks for the references. I had no idea gas vapors could escape through the walls of plastic containers - how insidious!
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#237333 - 12/13/11 04:00 PM
Re: gas can report
[Re: yee]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 309
Loc: north central west TX
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those chinese-made Justrite cans look great, as do the american-made Eagle cans i discovered reading the Justrite reviews. Eagle Brand 5 Gallon Gas Canonly problem is the cost of having a half dozen of these steel cans (around the ranch, that's barely enough). i found this helpful info about spout sizes, posted by one reviewer: Justrite makes these cans with a 1" or 5/8" outside-diameter pour hose:
- a 5/8" hose will fit any vehicle fuel port, whether gasoline or diesel. - a 1" hose won't fit a vehicle gasoline fuel port, but will fit a diesel fuel port. - a 1" hose pours about twice as fast as a 5/8" hose; about one minute per gallon with the 5/8" hose.
Amazon also sells the Justrite 11077 1" Hose, in case you want to switch between it and the 5/8" size. (Emptying 5 gallons with a 5/8" hose takes a long time.) Search Amazon on: Justrite 11077
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