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#237228 - 12/11/11 08:17 PM Re: gas can report [Re: yee]
BigToe Offline
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Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 81
Wow, you really hit one of my sore points. I have some older gas cans left but they are becoming unserviceable. The newer cans (I guess that is CARB-compliant?) are complete crap. I assume the intent is to prevent spillage, but every CARB can I have spills gas everywhere if used as designed. I've done as suggested by others here with improvised funnels, and usually pour from the new cans into the old as I use the gas to prevent cursing. One of my applications is to fill my motorcycles and that is a complete nightmare with gas splashing all over the tanks. Again, if the intent of CARB is to prevent spillage and emissions it has accomplished exactly the opposite.
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#237230 - 12/11/11 09:29 PM Re: gas can report [Re: yee]
Ian Offline
Member

Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 198
Loc: Scotland
I think I have mentioned it here before but why not use outboard motor tanks? I have used the flexible bag like tanks with great effect.

As a bonus you can rig your generator to take its supply direct from the tank so no transfer necessary.

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#237236 - 12/11/11 11:05 PM Re: gas can report [Re: yee]
JBMat Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 745
Loc: NC
Try a surplus store to see if they have any GI issue fuel nozzles. I can't say what we called em, something about a donkey richard?

Anyhow, they fit a bunch of 5 gal cans, little leakage, can be turned upside down, drain fast. They are aluminum or stainless, least they didn't rust, and could be angled even tho they are metal. All mil vehicles had at least one onboard as standard equipment.

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#237237 - 12/11/11 11:18 PM Re: gas can report [Re: yee]
TimDex Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 06/13/10
Posts: 56
Loc: New York State
Do I understand correctly that you can get a nicely functional gas (or diesel) scepter can from a canadian store (because I live right on the border)? Like, one that actually pours the gas out?

If so, I'm going over the bridge next week. (Well, after Christmas maybe, all the Canadians are over here, buying turkeys, and clogging up the walmart, and the customs line when they go home).

Tim

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#237240 - 12/12/11 01:01 AM Re: gas can report [Re: TimDex]
yee Offline
Member

Registered: 12/10/11
Posts: 169
I purchased the CARB compliant Scepter gas cans due to the fact that more gas can be stored per square area of floor. The civilian cans have individual spouts (unlike the military counterpart) even though the civilian cans are less sturdy.

However (AND HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART!!!), the NON-CARB compliant Scepter spouts that are still sold in Canada fits the CARB compliant Scepter cans well!!!

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/gas-can-spout/907423

The cap is the same. The only difference between the cap of the CARB compliant cap and the non-COMPLIANT cap has a cover of a different configuration to account for differences in the geometry of the CARB spout and it is of a different color!! The non-CARB spout will work with EITHER cover; the CARB spout is restricted to the cover that came with the can.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/gas-can-accessory-3-parts/907422

Obviously, the vent cap on the accessory is worthless in the CARB-compliant can.

When a CARB can is purchased, all that needs to be replaced is the spout itself and you are good to go.

Conway Yee


Edited by yee (12/12/11 06:54 PM)

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#237256 - 12/12/11 12:25 PM Re: gas can report [Re: yee]
MDinana Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
Yeah, CARB really sucks. I've found that a hacksaw to that crazy bulb at the end of the spout works wonders. Theoretically, of course, but since I live in VA, I don't think CA laws apply.

Donkey dong (or another "D" word that is also a nickname for Richard) is a synonym for the GI funnels - runs about $20 on google searches. or use a super siphon (Bass pro and similar places carry them), about $5. Or check out DS tactical as they sell most accessories for the cans. As an FYI, the water cans still ship across the border. I don't know of anyone using them as gas cans, nor do I encourage it. The difference in handles (1 vs 3) aside, I don't know if the plastic is formulated the same.

I've had some luck w/ surplus stores. They don't often have the cans on display but if you ask around they might be able to pull out some.

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#237260 - 12/12/11 02:44 PM Re: gas can report [Re: TimDex]
wileycoyote Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 309
Loc: north central west TX
Originally Posted By: TimDex
Do I understand correctly that you can get a nicely functional gas (or diesel) scepter can from a canadian store (because I live right on the border)? Like, one that actually pours the gas out?

If so, I'm going over the bridge next week. (Well, after Christmas maybe, all the Canadians are over here, buying turkeys, and clogging up the walmart, and the customs line when they go home).

Tim


tim,

this was the best that i can determine. info is slim.

my attempts to find any scepter here in the usa has been fruitless, even calling stores listed on scepter's website as "usa retailers" in the states.

but Conway Yee's spout info is incredibly helpful and kinda answers the question! thank you Yee!!!!! wahoo!!!!![/b]


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#237319 - 12/13/11 05:13 AM Re: gas can report [Re: yee]
Grahund Offline
Stranger

Registered: 11/01/08
Posts: 18
Loc: San Francisco, CA, USA
As a California resident, I have a tiny amount of responsibility for the CARB requirements; as much as any other liberal voter in the state. I used to really hate CARB compliant gas cans. Two things changed my mind: the CARB white paper on the requirements and Justrite 7250120 and 7250130 gas cans.The 120 can has a 5/8" nozzle and the 130 a 1" nozzle. These are the best gas cans I have ever owned or used. CARB or not-CARB. They are not cheap, $65 from Amazon, but they are well worth it for being long lasting and easy to use. Not to mention a small contribution to improving the quality of the air we all breathe.

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#237322 - 12/13/11 12:38 PM Re: gas can report [Re: Grahund]
hikermor Offline
Geezer in Chief
Geezer

Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
Thanks for the references. I had no idea gas vapors could escape through the walls of plastic containers - how insidious!
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#237333 - 12/13/11 04:00 PM Re: gas can report [Re: yee]
wileycoyote Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 309
Loc: north central west TX
those chinese-made Justrite cans look great, as do the american-made Eagle cans i discovered reading the Justrite reviews.

Eagle Brand 5 Gallon Gas Can

only problem is the cost of having a half dozen of these steel cans (around the ranch, that's barely enough).

i found this helpful info about spout sizes, posted by one reviewer:

Justrite makes these cans with a 1" or 5/8" outside-diameter pour hose:

- a 5/8" hose will fit any vehicle fuel port, whether gasoline or diesel.
- a 1" hose won't fit a vehicle gasoline fuel port, but will fit a diesel fuel port.
- a 1" hose pours about twice as fast as a 5/8" hose; about one minute per gallon with the 5/8" hose.

Amazon also sells the Justrite 11077 1" Hose, in case you want to switch between it and the 5/8" size. (Emptying 5 gallons with a 5/8" hose takes a long time.) Search Amazon on: Justrite 11077

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