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#235821 - 11/18/11 10:26 AM Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival?
dweste Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
Posts: 2463
Loc: Central California
You are faced with a survival situation and turn to your urban bug-in kit, what technology traceable to our pre-electronic predecessors would you want to find?

Hand-tools? Manual clothes washing? Rat traps? Clothesline and clothespins?

Your thoughts?

Thanks.

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#235822 - 11/18/11 12:19 PM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: dweste]
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 3002
How long has the situation laster so far. For example washing, I keep my old clothes, when work pants get too worn to look nice rather than throw them away they go in an old duffel bag in the top of my closet. When I need to paint or change the oil I grab one of those. So if I were in a bug in situation and ran out of clean clothes I have a set of older clothes I can wear.
Manual washing isn't too hard to figure out, toss clothes, water and soap in any kind of container you can find, take off the kids clothes and stick them in with them and let them play and splash around for a while.
hand tools you can use during notmal times so those should already be around the house.

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#235823 - 11/18/11 12:19 PM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: dweste]
bacpacjac Offline
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Registered: 05/05/07
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
"Hand-tools? Manual clothes washing? Rat traps? Clothesline and clothespins?"

All three are in our line-up, Deweste. Including wash boad and basin, huricane oil lamps and handtools for repairs and meal prep.
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#235828 - 11/18/11 12:56 PM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: dweste]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
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Loc: southern Cal
Short answer - almost all of it.

More detail. I find it more useful to think in terms of non-electronic vs. electronic. Even then I prefer to think of "grid" electronic (things like refrigerators) vs. small scale electronics (flashlights, cell phones, and GPS) which can be kept humming by very small solar arrays. The Holy Grail there will be a solar setup which is truly practical for backpacking or hiking. I have not found one yet.
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#235834 - 11/18/11 02:23 PM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: dweste]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
-Board games.
-More hand tools would be nice, but I'm not a handyman, so the tools wouldn't change much.
-If I had to "hope to find something," a freaking horse and cart would be nice. pretty sure I haven't stocked that though.

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#235837 - 11/18/11 04:48 PM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: dweste]
LesSnyder Offline
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Registered: 07/11/10
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Loc: New Port Richey, Fla
my 12v portable drill was not up to the task of securing plywood to 27 windows in 04....back up was a Stanley "yankee screwdriver" that worked well (now have 2)

alternate ways to heat water with solar energy

current "holy grail" is a Sterling or turbine blade ventilation fan that will work off a Dietz lantern, at less than antique prices

good framing hammer, hand saw, bow saw, machete, fence pliers, diagonal cutting pliers, bolt cutters, channel lock pliers, 5/16" chain w/hooks, 8d, 16d nails and deck screws (Torx head),hand brace and auger bits

mosquito netting and citronella bucket candle

Dietz lanterns and extra wicks...will pick up another gallon of kero next season

so far my minimum use of the Goal Zero 7w panel, and the Goal 10 power pack have been promising with Sanyo eneloops...and cable to charge the 12v batteries

cast iron fry pan and 7qt pot for most cooking...played a little with BYU solar oven..fish smoker to preserve fresh meat if necessary

bicycle for transportation

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#235853 - 11/18/11 09:21 PM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: dweste]
ponder Offline
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Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 367
Loc: American Redoubt

Twice I needed my SANS & STREIFFE slide rule in the field.

When the batteries are dead or I am outside the temperature range of my "CITY TOY", I am glad to have a good quality bamboo slide rule.

It was 118F on the Baha. My batteries were fried. I had to see how bad I was getting ripped off by a Mexican kid selling gas out of a barrel. He wanted to get paid in dollars for the gas he had priced in pesos/liter. I wanted gallons.

On another trip, I had a bull elk at 850 yards down hill at 40 degrees. The temperature was pushing -20 degrees. My HP27 screen went blank. The slide rule gave me the cosine of 40 degrees for the horizontal correction.
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#235856 - 11/18/11 10:27 PM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: dweste]
wileycoyote Offline
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Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 311
Loc: north central west TX

"Hand-tools? Manual clothes washing? Rat traps? Clothesline and clothespins?"


yesterday's technology?

heck no, we use those things everyday. plus an outhouse. in fact i re-set my rat traps around the pick-up just minutes ago...

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#235865 - 11/19/11 01:32 AM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: dweste]
Byrd_Huntr Offline
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Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 1174
Loc: MN, Land O' Lakes & Rivers ...
Candles! We have several hanging lanterns that hold votive candles and 50 candles to put in them, Also a makeshift outhouse with a tall tent enclosure a luggable loo and cedar bedding.
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#235868 - 11/19/11 01:47 AM Re: Best of yesterday's technology for urban survival? [Re: LesSnyder]
hikermor Offline
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Loc: southern Cal
Originally Posted By: LesSnyder
my 12v portable drill was not up to the task of securing plywood to 27 windows in 04....back up was a Stanley "yankee screwdriver" that worked well (now have 2


I have long used a screwdriver bit chucked in a brace and bit setup to drive wood screws. It is not the fastest method, but it gives great control, and most screws drive quite easily.
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