A while back, after a long night at the deershack playing trondune, drinking beer, and snorting Dr Johnson's snuff, I packed my 6'2' frame into the back of a Volkswagon Beetle, and spent the cold November night there. I have spent many nights since in the back of a pickup or Chevy Blazer in relative comfort. I can't, in good faith, recommed either the VW or the snuff.