For example, there was an episode of a reality show called, Man, Woman, Wild. In the epi, Mykel Hawkes with Ruth gets dehydrated and suffering badly. He makes a fire by bow drill or friction technique (can't recall) and while we it only taking a few moments of screen time, he is discussing the technique, walking us through the process and admits its taken him 90 minutes to get it started.

To me that was huge compliment to the Preparedness community compared to Bear, Les, et al that even when they obviously have trouble with a fire it is rarely if ever mentioned the time or effort to complete it unless there is drama like a cut or accident or something.

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Should we rename this the "we HATE Bear forum"?
Bear, at least, has the brains to pack along a ferro rod, water bottle and something to boil water in.

Frankly, the only good think that I can see coming out of Man, Woman, Wild is the rather small possibility that people suddenly wake up to just how stupid it is to not carry a lighter, matches etc.

Seeing someone like Mykel not carrying something like a DOAN frankly disgusted me.