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#235001 - 11/02/11 07:16 PM Re: unnatural prejudice I just don't like liner locks [Re: TeacherRO]
JBMat Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 745
Loc: NC
I don't mind either. Used and use both, have all 10 fingers still.

I really don't like brussel sprouts, lima beans or liver however.

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#235007 - 11/02/11 10:12 PM Re: unnatural prejudice I just don't like liner locks [Re: TeacherRO]
boatman Offline
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Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 424
Loc: Michigan
You don't have to have a reason to like/not like something.I personally do not trust "lock blades".I have seen too many cut hands from using it beyond its limits.A lot of people do not keep them sharp enough either."It'll cut if I push harder" is their subconscious thought.
I use a SAK Farmer and have no problems with it.Knowing its limitations and keeping it properly sharp is hte answer.Heavy cutting is for fixed blades.Currently a BK-14 ESKABAR is the heavy cutter for me.
Remember a folding knife is designed to close and can do so when you least expect it....

BOATMAN
John

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#235012 - 11/03/11 12:36 AM Re: unnatural prejudice I just don't like liner locks [Re: boatman]
haertig Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 03/13/05
Posts: 2322
Loc: Colorado
I like the backlocks the best. All of mine these days have that "Boyle dent" to make them safer. I don't care for liner locks because you have to put your finger in the way of the closing blade. However, I've never cut myself with a liner lock, but I can envison it happening. And whatever that lock type is on a Benchmade Gryptillian - that is the only locking mechanism where I have actually cut myself while closing the knife. In a knife store, inspecting the knife. How embarassing. I obviously mishandled the knife, not knowing what I was doing. It was like after a certain point in closing the blade, it somehow pulled out of my grasp and snapped itself the rest of the way closed. Unfortunately, with an errant finger still in the way.

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#235014 - 11/03/11 01:07 AM Re: unnatural prejudice I just don't like liner locks [Re: TeacherRO]
Hanscom Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 11/23/05
Posts: 86
I worked in a knife store for 15 months and came to a similar conclusion.

Since I am a compulsive kind of guy, I examined the knives I did not like and tried to figure out why. My conclusion was that a liner lock seemed to be the easiest style to do badly. And maybe how they fit my hand.

Having said that, there were some manufacturers that seemed to do a good job, at least it was good six years ago. Two I remember are Lone Wolf and the Al Mar SERE. And the framelock Sebenza.

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#235017 - 11/03/11 01:57 AM Re: unnatural prejudice I just don't like liner locks [Re: TeacherRO]
Bingley Offline
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Registered: 02/27/08
Posts: 1582
I'm a little surprised to see so many people worried about a liner lock knife cutting you as you close. When opening or closing a knife, I try to be very mindful. Do it at a safe, slow speed. Use both hands if necessary. Give it my whole attention. I wouldn't just "whip out" the blade and snap it close. As a consequence, I don't regard this as a risky phase of using the knife.

I'm more worried about the lock getting accidentally released or failing when I'm using the knife. This is when I have to pay attention to the task at hand, not to the integrity of the knife. This is where I have to trust the knife not to fail you. Alas, I had two accidental releases with a back lock knife (not due to operator error), and I never used a back lock again. Maybe the Boye thingy fixed the problem, but I've found the axis lock to be plenty satisfactory for most uses. I've also never had problems with the one liner lock I have.

Da Bing

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#235023 - 11/03/11 03:25 AM Re: unnatural prejudice I just don't like liner locks [Re: Bingley]
haertig Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 03/13/05
Posts: 2322
Loc: Colorado
I am trying to think of how one would use a knife and cause it to CLOSE. It seems like normal knife operations would be trying to force the knife OPEN, not closed. The only operation I can imagine that would tend to close a knife would be stabbing something. Not an action I'd undertake with a folding knife. Slicing, whittling, ... they all put pressure to open the knife. What am I not seeing?

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#235030 - 11/03/11 09:05 AM Re: unnatural prejudice I just don't like liner locks [Re: haertig]
hikermor Offline
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Geezer

Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
Way back when my father gave me my first knife, I was instructed to always cut away from myself, and to keep fingers away from the path of the blade. If you do that, it doesn't matter whether the knife has a lock or not. It's a analogous to treating all guns as if they are loaded.
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