#234095 - 10/20/11 10:36 PM
 
Re: Place for bullet-proof vest?
[Re: hikermor]
 | 
 
 
 
Pooh-Bah
 
 
 
Registered:  03/08/07
 
Posts: 2208
 
Loc:  Beer&Cheese country
 | 
Where i come from, bullet proof vests are used to stop rounds aimed intentionally at one's center of mass; hopefully, the rating of the vest will exceed the strength of the round employed.
  i believe in most departments these days, bullet proof vests are worn routinely when on patrol.
  They don't always work.  Just before I retired, I donated two weeks leave to the widow of a ranger who caught an AK-47 round that sneaked in between the seams of his vest.  I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that the soft vests won't stop that round. Even the ceramic plates have gaps where the plates don't overlap, not to mention they can fail w/ repeated hits.  
 
 |  
| 
Top
 | 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
#234112 - 10/21/11 12:34 AM
 
Re: Place for bullet-proof vest?
[Re: MDinana]
 | 
 
 
 
Geezer in Chief
 
Geezer
 
 
Registered:  08/26/06
 
Posts: 7705
 
Loc:  southern Cal
 | 
I'm not sure, but I'll bet he had plates.  This was on the border at organ Pipe Cactus National Monument.  But yes, vests aren't perfect.... 
_________________________ 
Geezer in Chief
 
 
 |  
| 
Top
 | 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
#234114 - 10/21/11 12:44 AM
 
Re: Place for bullet-proof vest?
[Re: hikermor]
 | 
 
 
 
Pooh-Bah
 
 
Registered:  09/15/05
 
Posts: 2485
 
Loc:  California
 | 
I'm not sure, but I'll bet he had plates. Sigh, it's a sad state of affairs when a park ranger has to gear up as if he's on patrol in Afghanistan. RIP Smugglers, pot grows, meth labs in our national parks? Crazy.  
 
 |  
| 
Top
 | 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
#234542 - 10/26/11 09:54 PM
 
Re: Place for bullet-proof vest?
[Re: dweste]
 | 
 
 
 
Veteran
 
 
Registered:  02/20/09
 
Posts: 1372
 | 
My $0.02
  Following up on what CJK said ... you can buy soft armor ballistic pads online.  I've got a couple that are about 12 inches square.  They're not cheap, but they're also not as expensive as a full armored vest.  Just get a couple of the pads and use them to line your backpack.  It's unobtrusive.  In the event of a hold-up in a disaster zone, you've got some minimal protection if the robber does shoot you with a handgun.  Of course, you've got to be able to use your backpack as a shield - if you don't get it off in time - you're dead anyway.  With the ballistic pads and the backpack material - it might work against most handgun bullets.  
  As several people have pointed out - this won't stop a rifle bullet.  Use common sense ... which is always the best protection.
  Pete2 
 
 |  
| 
Top
 | 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
#234592 - 10/27/11 04:28 PM
 
Re: Place for bullet-proof vest?
[Re: hikermor]
 | 
 
 
 
Journeyman
 
 
Registered:  05/28/06
 
Posts: 58
 | 
Where i come from, bullet proof vests are used to stop rounds aimed intentionally at one's center of mass; hopefully, the rating of the vest will exceed the strength of the round employed. Wearing a bullet proof vests, DOES NOT mean you can stand still and be a target for someone shoot you with a gun. I would still dive for the nearest cover when shooting starts.  
  Edited by firefly99 (10/27/11 04:43 PM)
 
 |  
| 
Top
 | 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
#234595 - 10/27/11 05:35 PM
 
Re: Place for bullet-proof vest?
[Re: Pete]
 | 
 
 
 
Sheriff
 
Pooh-Bah
 
 
 
Registered:  10/12/07
 
Posts: 1804
 
Loc:  Southern California
 | 
My $0.02
  Following up on what CJK said ... you can buy soft armor ballistic pads online.  I've got a couple that are about 12 inches square.  They're not cheap, but they're also not as expensive as a full armored vest.  Just get a couple of the pads and use them to line your backpack.  It's unobtrusive.  In the event of a hold-up in a disaster zone, you've got some minimal protection if the robber does shoot you with a handgun.  Of course, you've got to be able to use your backpack as a shield - if you don't get it off in time - you're dead anyway.  With the ballistic pads and the backpack material - it might work against most handgun bullets.  
  As several people have pointed out - this won't stop a rifle bullet.  Use common sense ... which is always the best protection.
  Pete2  How much do those two pads weigh? HJ  
 
 |  
| 
Top
 | 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
 | 
 
 
|  
 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
		1
	 | 
 
|  
		2
	 | 
 
		3
	 | 
 
		4
	 | 
 
		5
	 | 
 
		6
	 | 
 
		7
	 | 
 
		8
	 | 
 
|  
		9
	 | 
 
		10
	 | 
 
		11
	 | 
 
		12
	 | 
 
		13
	 | 
 
		14
	 | 
 
		15
	 | 
 
|  
		16
	 | 
 
		17
	 | 
 
		18
	 | 
 
		19
	 | 
 
		20
	 | 
 
		21
	 | 
 
		22
	 | 
 
|  
		23
	 | 
 
		24
	 | 
 
		25
	 | 
 
		26
	 | 
 
		27
	 | 
 
		28
	 | 
 
		29
	 | 
 
|  
		30
	 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 
 
	
 
| 
0 registered (), 
795 
Guests and
45 
Spiders online. | 
 
| 
 
	Key:
	Admin,
	Global Mod,
	Mod
 
 | 
 
 
 | 
 
 
 |