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#233378 - 10/08/11 03:50 AM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: bacpacjac]
Mark_M Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/19/09
Posts: 295
Loc: New Jersey
What are these doors and windows (and roof) things you speak of? I drive a Jeep Wrangler, and on good days I leave these items at home.

The reality is that EVERYTHING in my 2010 Wrangler is computer-controlled. Push the window-down button and it sends a signal to the computer, which looks to see if the door is connected, (because they can and frequently do come off), whether or not the window is already fully down, then starts the motor to lower the window. I've had situations where, due to dirt in the door connector, the windows were stubborn to operate because of poor computer communications.

What's really funny is watching me try to open the rear hatch when driving without doors. All the locks automatically engage when the Jeep hits 15MPH and then are supposed to disengage when a front door is opened. Of course, when doorless, the locks are never signaled to disengage. Not a problem for getting in or out, but the rear hatch stays locked. Of course I forget this until I'm trying to open the hatch, and then my first reaction is to go and hit the door unlock button, but of course that button is on the doors which are back at home. When doorless, the only way to unlock the hatch is with the key fob. Always good for a chuckle.

As for gear, I try to have the most critical items within easy reach at all times. Fortunately, there's enough room under the Jeep's front and rear seats to stash a great deal of stuff, and with a little creative use of velcro wraps and webbing, make it secure against becoming a deadly projectile in an accident.

Jumper cables, siphon, reflective vest, gloves, disposable ponchos and flares are in a soft case under the driver's seat, and a fire extinguisher in a quick-release bracket is attached to the driver's seat mount.

Emergency food ration bar and water packets, mylar blankets and chempak hand warmers are in another soft pouch under the passenger seat, along with a box of baby wipes.

Driver's door pocket has an LED flashlight and a multi-tool, which move to the center console when the doors are off. Passenger door has another flashlight and a first aid kit, both go in the glove box when doorless.

My GHB is strapped to the back of the driver's seat (used to be on the passenger seat, but I got tired of moving it to accommodate passengers). A second GHB with basics for passengers is under the rear seat, along with an umbrella, tarp and air compressor. I attach a collapsible snow shovel to the back of the rear seat, accessible from the rear seating area, during winter.

More stuff is in the back cargo area. Most of it is in bags attached to molle webbing that's mounted inside the rear hatch, so once I swing the hatch open, that stuff is easy to get at. Other items are in the under-floor compartment, and would take some unpacking if I was loaded-up for a trip.
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#233395 - 10/08/11 04:35 PM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: Denis]
Chisel Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 1563
I just bought a new Toyota Camry 2011. I have asked for the model with LEAST e-gadgets, and only added a pair of fog lights. That's it.

Th trunk has three ways of opening, remote control, latch inside the car (beside the driver seat), or using the KEY.

I believe that a prepper should NOT hand-cuff himself by buying electronically loaded vehicle, unless there are manual alternatives.

Since the OP main question is about the kit, I think he can either put it nearer to him as he drive, or add another smaller kit on his person as he drives.

Newer cars have bigger space for personal stuff ( e.g. bigger glove compartment ) . It can easily accomodate a Maxped pocket organizer or two.

Edited to add :

Forgot to say that the new car came with a nice emergency kit ( compressor, FAK, gloves, emergency light, reflective triangle, & fire extinguisher ) .. but no jumper cable


Edited by Chisel (10/08/11 04:43 PM)

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#233402 - 10/08/11 07:39 PM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: ]
Susan Offline
Geezer

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Quote:
You'd think that it would be mandatory since power windows die the moment you crash your car into water.


Why would they die immediately? They're still connected, the battery still has juice, water usually isn't an impediment to electricity, and there's usually a timer on the windows.

Personally, I think the electronics on vehicles are getting out of hand. If you're too stupid to operate a car, you're too stupid to operate a car.

My work Suburban had the light go out behind the speedometer: the part was about $650, a whole cemented-LED module. Now the third brake light is out: about $265.

I wonder if you can special-order a car that isn't built to outsmart the driver and boost the manufacturer's income?

Sue

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#233405 - 10/08/11 09:39 PM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: Susan]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 11/13/06
Posts: 2986
Loc: Nacogdoches, Texas
Originally Posted By: Susan
I wonder if you can special-order a car that isn't built to outsmart the driver and boost the manufacturer's income?

Such a car did exist. However, Volkswagen stopped making the Beetle when the sales dropped.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#233408 - 10/08/11 11:56 PM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: Denis]
chaosmagnet Offline
Sheriff
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 3842
Loc: USA
Regulation has big part in the complexity of modern autos. You can't sell a car in the US that doesn't have on board diagnostics. That plus other emissions regulations and fuel economy standards essentially mandate computer controlled cars.

If there were demand for a car that could be maintained in a garage without electronic tools, it wouldn't be legal to sell it here.

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#233414 - 10/09/11 02:58 AM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: Denis]
MarkO Offline
Member

Registered: 03/19/10
Posts: 137
Loc: Oregon
Folks just need to accept that a laptop and appropriate software are now tools for fixing cars just like a wrench.

I bought a super cheap laptop and software from http://www.obd-2.com/ and it helped me get my car through 3 state inspections.

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#233416 - 10/09/11 06:09 AM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: chaosmagnet]
Susan Offline
Geezer

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Quote:
Regulation has big part in the complexity of modern autos. You can't sell a car in the US that doesn't have on board diagnostics. That plus other emissions regulations and fuel economy standards essentially mandate computer controlled cars.


And follow the money. It wouldn't be regulated if someone wasn't making some big bucks off it.

Sue

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#233484 - 10/10/11 04:29 PM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: Denis]
comms Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1502
Loc: Mesa, AZ
My Jeep doesn't have power doors or windows. DS (7) @ the time asked what the handle was for. When I told him it was to roll down the window, he couldn't do it. Too Funny.

I looked for a very stripped down model. I obviously didn't get it in a 2003 vehicle but there was a trade off. I was looking for a 1970, early 80's International Scout 2 as a 3rd POV but ended up getting the Jeep as my POV. Its just heck finding parts for a Scout now and I ain't that mechanical.

Of course I drive about 330 days a year w/o the top on my jeep so not really a problem for me to get out.
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#233541 - 10/11/11 11:45 PM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: Denis]
MDinana Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
I keep my kit in the bed of my pickup. Typically it has either a truck box (manual lock) or a tonneau cover (soft, ie, not secure). The tail gate doesn't have a lock. Makes it easy to take things out, but it also makes things easy to take out. I typically try to back up to a wall or light pole or something to act as an impediment to sticky fingers. The camera in the tailgate really helps.

My wife's car has it in her trunk, not accessible from the backseat, but works with a key fob.

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#233545 - 10/12/11 12:58 AM Re: Where you store your car kit ... [Re: MDinana]
Russ Offline
Geezer

Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
My truck has a hard tonneau cover with locks at each rear corner. It's really a two seat car with a strong suspension and a really big trunk. I keep a large Rubber Maid container and a cooler there along with my GHB. In a month I'll add my winter kit which adds additional cold weather clothing.

All that and plenty of room to haul "stuff".
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