Actually, it's not an original point, and I'm embarased to say _I_ didn't think of it until someone pointed it out to me about 2-3 months back! Guy asked me how hot the water I was pouring into my tea was. My answer was "Boiling" - he said, "Heck of a lot hotter than 180 deg, huh?" THAT is whn I went from "That McDs coffee WAS a bit too hot, the original settlement was silly, but the cut down settlement was OK" to, "Duh, coffee IS that hot"