#232766 - 09/26/11 05:05 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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Looks like the Alaska Dispatch's Craig Mildred has written another
'do as I say not as I do' article about firearms and bears.
He is kinda harsh on the kid trying to save his friend, not having
been there.
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#232767 - 09/26/11 05:06 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA
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Two inexperienced hunters... sigh.
Be careful of what you're hunting, and with whom you're hunting.
Sue
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#232780 - 09/26/11 06:00 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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Oh? I didn't catch that part of the story. With that bit of knowledge now in my pocket I can see why he might get charged with something. It reflects poorly on him as a sportsman, outdoorsman and hunter if he cannot properly identify a black bear from a grizzly bear.
I still don't think the D.A. will charge him. You throw in the fact that his friend is dead by his hand, punishment enough if you ask me, and the fact that he only misidentified the bear. There's worse poachers out there who're killing bears just for the paws and gall bladders.
Accidents happen and when they're straight forward accidents? No one need be punished, frankly.
All things considered this kind of situation is somewhat par for the course when you're hunting. If a hunter cannot tell a black bear from a grizzly bear, he should not be hunting bear. Jeanette Isabelle
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#232781 - 09/26/11 06:05 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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Looks like the Alaska Dispatch's Craig Mildred has written another
'do as I say not as I do' article about firearms and bears. Not quite sure what you mean by that? Medred shot the bear. He didn't shoot another person by mistake.
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#232786 - 09/26/11 07:21 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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Looks like the Alaska Dispatch's Craig Mildred has written another 'do as I say not as I do' article about firearms and bears. Not quite sure what you mean by that? Medred shot the bear. He didn't shoot another person by mistake. I believe clearwater is refering to the fact that Mr. Medred clearly advocates the use of bear spray as a ones primary defensive weapon against bears, especially for those not highly proficient with firearms, and yet to chooses firerarms as his own primary defense weapon and has even used them successfully as such.
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#232790 - 09/26/11 08:08 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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I believe clearwater is refering to the fact that Mr. Medred clearly advocates the use of bear spray as a ones primary defensive weapon against bears, especially for those not highly proficient with firearms, and yet to chooses firerarms as his own primary defense weapon and has even used them successfully as such. Yes, Mr. Medred does suggest that those not highly proficient with firearms should not rely on them for bear protection. I happen to agree with that. Unfortunately, I have met far too many people who carry do firearms for bear protection, yet who can't even reliably hit a paper target on a range, let alone a charging bear in the brush. Mr. Medred also indicates that he is highly proficiant with firearms. I have no problem with him or anyone else who is truely proficient with firearms carrrying them for bear protection.
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#232794 - 09/26/11 08:44 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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It was unclear how many times the bear was hit, or whether the bullet that killed Stevenson had first hit the bear. Bowe said that possibility was under investigation. It sounds like the authorities don't know if the shot was directly to the friend, or via some bizarre ricochet/penetration of the bear. People, don't be too quick to judge the surviving hunter here! All the details are not available yet.
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#232842 - 09/27/11 04:16 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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I wonder if he'll ever want to hunt again.
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#232922 - 09/28/11 06:10 PM
Re: Montana hunter died by partner's bullet, not bear!
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On the first article: That's gotta help. Knowing that shooting his friend was bad luck and not directly his fault. On the second article: You'd be suprised how many people don't carry bear spray. I was up in Kings Canyon/Sequoia NP a couple a years back when a sow and cub wandered into camp (backcountry, not campground). There were a dozen of us, and I was the only one who had bear spray. Thankfully, the bears detoured around us instead of raiding the kitchen area.
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