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| #232377 - 09/18/11 04:47 PM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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|   Pooh-Bah
 
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Just an FYI, I soaked one of the peanut lighters in a glass of water for an hour and it lit on the first strike. What makes me uncomfortable is the ruggedness of a peanut lighter depends entirely on the seal at the O-ring.  If the O-ring breaks or if the lighter otherwise fails to have the seal, then you have a lighter that is suddenly on the delicate side.  Without the seal, the lighter will have basically zero water resistance.  I would expect a peanut lighter to be entirely inoperable for the remainder of a trip if the mechanics are exposed to heavy water.  Also, the lighter fuel will leak relatively  quickly on a peanut lighter without an O-ring seal. In contrast, a mini Bic just needs to air out for awhile if it gets wet.  Also, the mini Bic doesn't have a gas leak issue (at least not for me). Here's an invention idea:  a lighter with a head unit as rugged as a mini Bic lighter, but with a covering like the peanut lighter, and less than $10.  My temporary homemade solution would be to put a mini Bic inside a larger capsule that's waterproof.  I would bring this setup if I'm venturing into extreme conditions somewhere, along with other other fire starters of course.
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| #232401 - 09/18/11 11:56 PM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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|   Addict
 
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A whole lot of stuff depends on O ring to keep them working, flashlights, watches, cameras, stoves etc. I think you are over worrying a bit. |  
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| #232406 - 09/19/11 12:33 AM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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|   Carpal Tunnel
 
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I'm not necessarily advocating carrying a $2 Chinese peanut lighter as one's only fire starting method.      I'm just pointing out the results of my preliminary tests.  While it does rely on an O-ring I agree that lots of things rely on them.  Overall O-rings are fairly robust, and the way the lighter is constructed it's hard to imagine just how the O-ring would be subjected to much shock or stress.  You could get aftermarket gaskets or carry spares if you were really worried.
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| #232428 - 09/19/11 02:52 PM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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I got two of these as well.   They are too small for my hands and lose fuel to quickly.  The 'o' ring's disappeared quickly.  
 I tried an experiment that I left unfinished, but looked promising.   I pulled the lighter insert out of the peanut case.  I then poked a PT soak cotton ball into the container, teasing out a wick, making a permanent match.
 
 A few sparks from the empty 2nd lighter, lit the match with no trouble.
 
 It's still hard for me to use for it's size, but this seems like a promising approach to making it more durable for long term storage.
 
 
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| #232436 - 09/19/11 05:31 PM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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|   Carpal Tunnel
 
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Interesting...what do you mean by "disappeared"?  Do you mean they degrade or they fell off/got lost?  I'll keep an eye out for that.  Maybe I'll look for better gaskets.  Again, I don't suppose I'll mess around with them much since they were so cheap.
 I'm headed out this afternoon for an overnighter at a nearby state park.  I'll take one of the lighters with me along with my other stuff.
 
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| #232441 - 09/19/11 05:43 PM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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|   Pooh-Bah
 
   Registered:  04/01/10
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I have a revision of a previous statement.  Looking at some notes, I recall now that I was unsuccessful twice at buying fitting O-rings for my peanut lighters.  If anybody wants to try their own buying, note the following O-rings are too thick:http://www.oringsusa.com/catalog/product...it26noks59osvg3http://www.amazon.com/-013-O-Ring-Durome...0034&sr=1-1 If you find the right size, please share.  Don't be scared by that pic.  The actual O-rings I have look like they could fit, but they're just a fraction of a mm too thick.  There's no room for anymore thickness on these peanut lighters.  The extra thickness makes the O-ring slide off.
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| #232446 - 09/19/11 06:21 PM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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|   Stranger
 
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I have a Spy Capsule Keychain Lighter from EDC depot that I filled with fuel 10 months ago.  I don’t use it, don’t smoke, I just wanted to see how long the fuel would last.  I lit it once a day for a while then went to once a week.  Now I only light it about once a month and guess what?  It has lit every time so far.  I guess the O-ring keeps the fuel from evaporating as well as keeping the water out.  Compared to a Bick, of which I have many, you can light the peanut and set it down.  For what its worth.http://edcdepot.com/spycapsulekeychainlighter.aspx
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| #232451 - 09/19/11 06:58 PM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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|   Carpal Tunnel
 
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That's a pretty cool looking little lighter, and cheap too. 
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| #232465 - 09/19/11 09:11 PM  Re: Got my pair of peanut lighers from DX today
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|   Pooh-Bah
 
   Registered:  04/01/10
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A nice thing about lighters generally is that you can wrap the lighter with bike inner tube and you have a complete firing starting system in a relatively tiny package.  (I prefer to use inner tube as tinder, rather than keep the lighter going.)  The inner tube also dampens clanking with other gear. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the same lighter from DX (China).http://www.dealextreme.com/p/super-mini-vintage-oil-lighter-3734 You said you can light your lighter and set it down.  Did your lighter come with a flat bottom?
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