First time to see this stove

The video is long ( 32+ minutes).
You can find the stove @ (10:33)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS-jlmti8-w

He called it ( Swiss Rocket stove)

I like it because it combines a rocket stove and an esbit / alcohol stove all in one. I particularly like the deep cup where fire the sides as well, not only the bottom. Makes it an efficient heat transferring stove. And you can use anything from twigs, to esbit cubes , to a small cup (tea candle cup) full of alcohol

Anyone seen it in any website ??
How much is it ?

That's just a solid fuel stove. Not alcohol. Been around a long time but pretty niche. Could use a burning coal, esbit tab, probably wet tinder fire starter. I've seen some of my 'greener' buddies trying to use similar chimney type kits burning sticks and tender instead of man made fuels. swiss stove

CheaperThanDirt sells them for $10 used. Sigg bottle in the video will run you another $25 if you don't have one laying around.

There was a previous thread here about this stove about 3 yrs ago: ETS - Swiss volcano stove

Sue

Thanks both of you

( BTW, www cheaper than dirt is off limits in my corner of the world. I can't access it. Maybe they see it as a survivalist or paramilitary thing ).

Anyway, my goal has been a stove that is based on Esbit but multi-purpose enough to take alcohol or even a Sterno canister. I noticed in the picture - older thread - that there is another gadget for alcohol or gasoline , but that one s not necessary. The outer chimney and cup are the most important. I wish I am handy enough to fabricate my own with the follewoing modifications :

- Make it wider a bit to accomaodate wider - more stable - cups like the normal canteen cup .

- Make the bottom of the chimney removable to insert a sterno inside if I want.

- Make it double walled like some stainless steel water containers. That should help minimize escaping heat and focus most of the heat to the cooking pot.

In such case, it would take all my favorite fuel types from twigs to sterno. And as a plus , will be very efficient in minimizing lost heat and not need a windscreen.

It may not be light or collapsable in that case, but my goal is make it a "car BOB stove" , not really for a backpack stove.

I live in a very hot area, and gas canisters are not really safe to be stored in car trunks. Twigs and esbit cubes are much safer and longer lasting. That's why I am more intersted in those.

Geesh, why didn't you just say so.

here is a link for canteen stove tops. I used to own a very old, old model of a (i think) military issue that fit my canteen cup but it was taller. You could easily fit a sterno under here. I am guessing it nests the cup.

There is always the Esbit Cook Stove set.

http://www.amazon.com/Esbit-ESCS985HA0-S...2921&sr=8-1

Which uses a Trangia type copy alcohol burner and a elevated tray for Esbit Hexitabs.

The Wind shield might have a diameter wide enough to take a sterno can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHkloPDdFOA

You can get the swiss volcano Stove for about $10 in the UK

http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/shop/a...ano-690596.html

But I've never bothered with one.


Yes but can Yankeeprepper assemble a BREN gun blindfolded in 20 sec...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QIO_G9gs0A

Personally, I would like to see Hikin Jim do for alcohol/debris/Esbit stoves what he's been doing for the fancier stoves.

I suspect he has quite a collection of those, too!

And if he doesn't, I'll bet that plant hunter from Spring, TX does.

Sue

on the link Susan mentioned, I posted that I had opened the hole on a new surplus Swiss Ranger Volcano stove to allow a Trangia stove to fit... later enlarged it so a Sterno can fit... at that point you are about at a full diameter opening...the jelled alcohol in the Sterno seems like a good idea for a car stove, and can always use twigs...at the time you could get a pair of units from Sportsman's Guide for around $20

Thanks everyone

LesSnyder , I have seen a few U-tubes since this thread pointed me the right direction, and noticed that boiling water takes longer time in this stove compared to others.
Do you remember how long it took you , using twigs, and using sterno ?? Thanks

Thanks comms

I have a rigid metal wire container (6x4x4 inches) that has no use as a container, and I was thinking to use it (upside down) with a sterno underneath ... The only thing is that I am almost obsessed with (efficiency). I am trying to find the BEST design for minimizing heat loss. Maybe using a windscreen is enough, but having the windscreen built-in is better.

Sue,

I'd love to do all three of those topics (alcohol/debris/Esbit stoves). However, you probably won't see me do a wood or "debris" type stove review. I live in a high fire danger area. Wood fires are just plain not allowed unless I want to travel to an official campground, pay for a site, and all that. I can't just go walking up the nearest trail like I can with my "fancier" (lol) stoves.

Alcohol stoves would be truly interesting to dig into. The problem with alcohol stoves is that there are hundreds upon hundreds of alcohol stoves. It would be really difficult though to do a true survey of what's out there in the alcohol stove "universe" simply because the "universe" is so large. Anyone with a cup shaped piece of metal can design an alcohol stove.

However, there are some alcohol stove "systems" out there that I do plan to review. I'm interested in "systems" because an alcohol stove is so dependent on a good set up in general and a windscreen in particular. The systems I'm interested in reviewing are the Trangia 27, the Caldera Cone, and the Clikstand (these three are some of the better known alcohol stove systems). Stay tuned on this one.

Esbit stoves are a little simpler to review. I've already reviewed the Ti Wing Stove which I like. I've also used the classic "folding box" Esbit stove, but I'm actually not particularly fond of that stove. I'll probably do more in times to come although I've got about 20 or 30 stove "projects" lined up ahead of it.

HJ

Hey don't discount the White Box Stove . if you want Jim, I'll loan you mine with my kettle for a test and you can send it back when your done.

lol. I wouldn't ever discount the White Box stove, one of the more famous alcohol stoves out there. I actually have one, and I like it.

I have a particular interest in alcohol stove systems that consist (in general) of a pot stand, windscreen, and burner. The White Box is well known and well made, but it isn't a system. By the way, Bill, the owner of White Box stoves has made some custom stuff for me. He's a really good guy, and he does really quality work. It's been a pleasure to deal with him.

By the way, saying that I can't begin to scratch the surface of the alcohol doesn't mean I don't have quite a collection of alcohol stoves. I've got Trangia, Trail Designs, Mini Bull Designs, White Box, and multiple home made stoves just to name a few.

HJ